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Mon Jan 21, 2019, 12:00 AM

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At Kirsten Gillibran's exploratory committee facebook page, it looks like 9 out of 10 comments are [View all] wasupaloopa Jan 2019 OP

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Just the facts. If it gets hid because I reported the facts so be it wasupaloopa Jan 2019 #2

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Just because you're not happy with the result doesn't mean it shouldn't be mentioned. BannonsLiver Jan 2019 #6

Post removed Post removed Jan 2019 #11

Hmmm BannonsLiver Jan 2019 #16

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I think that we are seeing misogyny rearing it's head again. Blue_true Jan 2019 #26

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Sure looks that way. And the self righteousness which some are doing that to her enrages me. nt Blue_true Jan 2019 #36

You can be on the forefront and also be in favor of giving the accused a fair investigation. BlueStater Jan 2019 #35

Yes the republicans on the ethics committee Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #44

I think Franken would have handled them quite well Mr.Bill Jan 2019 #49

Franken wouldn't have been in the room to handle them. Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #57

And that's all he would have needed. n/t Mr.Bill Jan 2019 #61

No Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #98

But he was willing to go through the process, even though spooky3 Jan 2019 #82

Or maybe that's why he chose to resign Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #97

The evidence is pretty clear that he resigned only after multiple spooky3 Jan 2019 #102

Yes he did. Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #104

You're moving the goalposts now. Yes, he probably agreed spooky3 Jan 2019 #117

I don't disagree with any of that. Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #119

You people can go making up speculations for the next century DFW Jan 2019 #139

No one accused you of making stuff Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #140

No problem. I believe every one of his detractors who say they haven't. n/t DFW Jan 2019 #142

Touche Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #144

The ethics committee usually operates quietly. He would have done fine... Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #123

No argument about Tweeden Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #126

I'm not going to argue this anymore. It's over. She did the wrong thing. There was NO EVIDENCE. Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #127

And no evidence that 7 women were lying Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #130

Talk about moving the goal posts dansolo Jan 2019 #146

No not saying that at all. Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #148

True that Lotusflower70 Jan 2019 #95

No doubt he would have Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #106

As fair as the investigation they gave Menendez, who actually was tried criminally for fraud. Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #113

No Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #116

Oh...bummer. Gillibrand didn't insist on his ouster. I wonder why. Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #118

Lots of maybes Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #120

Gillibrand was the face of the movement to oust Franken. She is proud of it. Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #121

That is your impression Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #122

Nope. In interview, she was introduced as "the face of the ouster of Franken...." Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #124

Introduced by someone else Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #128

I'm not going to respond further to your attempts to excuse her wrongful actions against Franken. Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #129

Over 30 Senators to call for Franken's resignation Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #131

Placed on ignore for hounding me repeatedly, saying the same thing over and over. Geez. nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #132

You replied to me Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #134

Some on DU doesn't want to hear the fact that there many Senators calling on Franken to resign. Blue_true Jan 2019 #135

44 out of 49 said he should go, either in public or private, and four of the other five were legally Celerity Jan 2019 #164

Thanks Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #165

They were all Republican organized DFW Jan 2019 #141

Where is the evidence of that? Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #143

+1 spooky3 Jan 2019 #80

Good luck with that. And btw, what's the opposite of misogyny... brush Jan 2019 #64

Whatever. nt Blue_true Jan 2019 #67

+1 fleabiscuit Jan 2019 #103

This perception is precisely why Franken had no choice but to resign LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #112

He had to leave when Schumer joined Gillibrand, and she got others to jump on bandwagon. Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #114

Don't try to play the misogynist card. MicaelS Jan 2019 #147

If she is as influential as you and others claim. Blue_true Jan 2019 #149

Why would we want a president who influences bad policy? vdogg Jan 2019 #152

Every one of the great Presidents had a lot of bad policy. Blue_true Jan 2019 #155

You do not stab your fellow Democratic Senator... MicaelS Jan 2019 #161

How did she stab Franken in the back? Blue_true Jan 2019 #163

I supported Hillary vdogg Jan 2019 #151

Did I say that everyone that oppose Gillibrand are? Blue_true Jan 2019 #154

McCarthy weilded the same type of "influence"; many of us don't desire that in a President LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #156

A President has to be convincing to be effective. Blue_true Jan 2019 #157

Yes, I am making that distinction. It's sad that you dont. LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #158

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Look it is going to be a long campaign season. Thousands of people are going to say what I did. wasupaloopa Jan 2019 #12

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Well said Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #31

We shouldn't go after any Dem who pushed for his resignation & that list is long mastermind Jan 2019 #70

What if one democrat disparages another? nini Jan 2019 #37

Seems to be a good report Sherman A1 Jan 2019 #4

Look I get it...but let's move on...not worth the risk...we all know what happened some Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #89

The Kremlin carefully targets its messaging - for maximum effect jpak Jan 2019 #150

Alert it or quit whining! nt USALiberal Jan 2019 #22

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Franken +1000 aeromanKC Jan 2019 #5

Biden is the one....My opinioin is he is the best candidate, most experienced, most respected, and Stuart G Jan 2019 #8

One candidate who shouldn't be ignored is Sherrod Brown... regnaD kciN Jan 2019 #10

I like him so much TexasBushwhacker Jan 2019 #13

Who ever takes Ohio.... safeinOhio Jan 2019 #87

And he has the va va voom that we need at the top of the ticket. It is a popularity contest... UniteFightBack Jan 2019 #21

I talked at length to a long time friend who is a republican. Stuart G Jan 2019 #29

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Doubt she'll make the final cut... regnaD kciN Jan 2019 #9

Actually, VPs don't do exceptionally well n/t TexasBushwhacker Jan 2019 #15

There are several women who are far better choices for prez or veep dhol82 Jan 2019 #17

As someone who is objective on this matter I agree..I think the serious Harris would be a UniteFightBack Jan 2019 #23

Gets what message? That she should undo Franken's departure? Fascinating that... TreasonousBastard Jan 2019 #14

"Fascinating that every time Gillibrand's name comes up, some one associates her with Franken." Scurrilous Jan 2019 #33

Pavlovian. I like. Straight to the point. Baggage she can't shake. brush Jan 2019 #66

Yep. I couldn't agree more. amuse bouche Jan 2019 #73

Sympathy for Gillibrand BootinUp Jan 2019 #81

She may get the message that there are a lot of bullies going to her website. SharonClark Jan 2019 #19

Well stated. Dr Hobbitstein Jan 2019 #25

Thank you! +1000 nt UniteFightBack Jan 2019 #27

She exploited the circumstances to gain a perceived political advantage. njhoneybadger Jan 2019 #38

*Alleged* behavior. BlueStater Jan 2019 #40

Perceived by whom?? Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #43

Gillibrand was one of the leaders of the attack. She asked for this when she made that decision. nt USALiberal Jan 2019 #39

Over thirty Democratic senators called for Franken's resignation DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #50

No person who called fro Sen Frankenstein to resign kelly1mm Jan 2019 #159

Then it is likely you will won't be voting for the Democratic candidate. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #160

Alas, that may be true .....nt kelly1mm Jan 2019 #162

They should be. nt doc03 Jan 2019 #30

Glad to hear it. (nt) Paladin Jan 2019 #34

She's lucky it isn't 10 out of 10. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2019 #41

If you make a negative comment or 6 they will block you. StTimofEdenRoc Jan 2019 #71

Good to know. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2019 #77

People say stuff there they otherwise wouldn't or even believe Kurt V. Jan 2019 #42

She probably understands that her leading against Franken will cost her a shot this cycle. FreepFryer Jan 2019 #45

"I hope she gets the message..." Scurrilous Jan 2019 #46

keep in mind.... getagrip_already Jan 2019 #47

She's about my eighth choice. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #48

Most of them aren't running for president. BlueStater Jan 2019 #52

Actually at least four others are DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #55

Well, yeah. I said most weren't running. BlueStater Jan 2019 #59

That's an interesting way of looking at it. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #63

Perception is extremely important in politics. BlueStater Jan 2019 #65

Female here. Not a zentrum Jan 2019 #51

Me too...Female Bettie Jan 2019 #62

K&R stonecutter357 Jan 2019 #53

She said she was "called to run for President" Frances Jan 2019 #54

The long arm of consequence. Fuzzpope Jan 2019 #56

It's an extremely short arm ... nobody else that called for his resignation SFnomad Jan 2019 #58

She WAS the first, she also said Clinton should have resigned over Monica. nt USALiberal Jan 2019 #60

So what that she was the first ... if she wasn't, somebody else would have been SFnomad Jan 2019 #69

This is a different era. Clinton might not have survived. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #72

There is no doubt ... and soon as the blue dress materialized, it would have been over SFnomad Jan 2019 #75

Part of what saved Clinton was the unsavoriness of and unlikeability of his enemies. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #79

Yeah ... start out investigating a failed property deal ... and wind up obsessing over SFnomad Jan 2019 #90

Plenty of reasons to dislike her. At one point, NRA "A" rating. Defended big tobacco. nt USALiberal Jan 2019 #76

What is her current NRA rating? Is she still defending big tobacco? n/t SFnomad Jan 2019 #85

So ignore any previous policy's and beliefs? Brilliant!!!! nt USALiberal Jan 2019 #88

I see you don't want to answer my question ... typical n/t SFnomad Jan 2019 #91

I see you got nothing! Typical! nt USALiberal Jan 2019 #92

Do people still hold President Obama's Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #101

I was going to say the same thing. I heard her on progressive satellite radio... brush Jan 2019 #74

She didn't just offer President Clinton up on a plate ... she was specifically asked SFnomad Jan 2019 #78

LOL, but she answered YES!!! She was not forced to answer! Wow. nt USALiberal Jan 2019 #86

That's rather naive Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #100

It was a 20 year old issue. That is the excuse. No need to revisit. But she choose to. Hmmmm. nt USALiberal Jan 2019 #136

Which would have been called a copout Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #137

Hurt her intelligence. nt USALiberal Jan 2019 #138

What show? Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #109

Sirius/FM satellite radio. The progressive channel 127. brush Jan 2019 #111

Ok Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #115

Sen. Franken didn't get the party support he deserved, I wish he would have stuck it out mastermind Jan 2019 #68

Just another place for that "post removed" person to post. rzemanfl Jan 2019 #83

When judging online comments this cycle remember that Russia is working hard to divide us, again TeamPooka Jan 2019 #84

Sometimes people just disagree! It's not always a conspiracy! nt USALiberal Jan 2019 #93

There's not much disagreement. Doesn't look like she'll be the nominee. Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #133

Once more time everyone Hangdog Slim Jan 2019 #94

You reap what you sow. Cattledog Jan 2019 #96

Meaningless... brooklynite Jan 2019 #99

She shouldn't pursue a nomination flamingdem Jan 2019 #105

Doesn't look that way to me. But I block idiots on facebook so YMMV there. nt fleabiscuit Jan 2019 #107

She was a "Greed is Good" Corporate Lawyer for Big Tobacco bitterross Jan 2019 #108

The key word being 'was'. Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #110

gotta link? aikoaiko Jan 2019 #125

I'd pay to see a debate between Franken and any "expert" here oasis Jan 2019 #145

The "No" button got pressed so many times it broke. lagomorph777 Jan 2019 #153