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sfwriter

(3,032 posts)
180. "Like Bernie, they fled the party the second they realized they are one voice among many here..."
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 08:23 PM
Jan 2019

Nope, I am not the kind of person you describe.

I voted for Hillary Clinton in the general because that was my party's nominee. I've voted Democratic in every election save for one when I was in the Army. In that one, I couldn't vote. Hell, I've been here since the start of this forum.

Peddle your divisive BS someplace else. Lots of Bernie supporters are still in the party. This year, they have progressive options. That will dilute Bernie's vote. Bernie is older. That will further reduce his vote. Bernie has also got much more of a track record. People have had time to tire of him. That will dilute his vote.

But those former Bernie supporters will vote. They didn't "flee the party." They have shifted the dialog to the left. Candidates will be looking to win that vote and Bernie supporters probably won't take kindly to being mocked for their vote. I expect to hear more progressive messages to appeal to Bernie's base, not jerimiads aimed at alienating them. People are looking for a more progressive option and the MANY Bernie supporters have stuck around and helped to change the party.

Anyone who "fled the party" is welcome to come back and cast a vote. The more the merrier because, you know, they are just one vote among many here and Bernie isn't even likely to be a contender this time.

Tell Math to stop drinking in the middle of the day. Squinch Jan 2019 #1
... lapucelle Jan 2019 #3
lol PunkinPi Jan 2019 #5
Bwah! cwydro Jan 2019 #6
Snort!😂 we can do it Jan 2019 #15
+1 dalton99a Jan 2019 #16
LOL! Ha! NurseJackie Jan 2019 #17
Ha! mcar Jan 2019 #29
This!!! MrsCoffee Jan 2019 #46
Fixin' to have an aperitif 🍷after that one! 😆 sprinkleeninow Jan 2019 #55
Go home math, you're drunk! Initech Jan 2019 #58
... lunamagica Jan 2019 #65
There was a smear in my screen that made it look like "Meth says" ... Yikes Hekate Jan 2019 #71
I must have had something on my screen too that made me see "Meth says....".... Pachamama Jan 2019 #146
It was your brain, trying to reformat what you read into a logical sentence Clash City Rocker Feb 2019 #227
! icymist Jan 2019 #93
Okay, you owe me a keyboard NastyRiffraff Jan 2019 #96
... sheshe2 Jan 2019 #101
... betsuni Jan 2019 #122
.... ehrnst Jan 2019 #149
Too early to predict. Laurian Jan 2019 #2
My daughters and I won't caucus for him exboyfil Jan 2019 #7
I don't see him going third party and helping Republicans win. ooky Jan 2019 #18
He's too pure for us Dems & played games right into the Convention. He'll play games again... Hekate Jan 2019 #73
BERNIE IS NOT A DEMOCRAT. HE IS TRYING TO HURT THE PARTY. BERNIE VOTERS GAVE US TRUMP barbiegeek Jan 2019 #156
I do. awesomerwb1 Jan 2019 #78
Ummmm sheshe2 Jan 2019 #108
Ummmm ooky Jan 2019 #123
Okay. sheshe2 Jan 2019 #124
He explained that he didn't go 3rd party last time because of $$ and marketing ehrnst Jan 2019 #151
Which candidates will draw away his votes? And, will they stay away? NewJeffCT Jan 2019 #145
OK - so, let's say he retains HALF of his support NewJeffCT Jan 2019 #148
You've made assumptions to get to your conclusion manor321 Jan 2019 #4
I think you are correct. ooky Jan 2019 #23
Yes indeed. Mariana Jan 2019 #30
Thanks for realizing that NewJeffCT Jan 2019 #142
I think it could be even higher than 75% InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #66
... SidDithers Jan 2019 #83
+1 Power 2 the People Jan 2019 #90
It could be 200%! Or 300%! NastyRiffraff Jan 2019 #97
Right on! (n/t) corbettkroehler Jan 2019 #208
Something else says that a whole lot of those 10 million votes will be spread... TreasonousBastard Jan 2019 #8
You must stop using OLD MATH and get onboard with NEW MATH. democratisphere Jan 2019 #9
Lol ... obnoxiousdrunk Jan 2019 #10
Reality tells me he has no shot calguy Jan 2019 #11
and now he has the #metoo problem trueblue2007 Jan 2019 #57
I agree and I think many of his early supporters soured on him by the end. Chemisse Jan 2019 #88
More fun, and completely useless math... SidDithers Jan 2019 #12
I support Bernie. Whether or not he wins the primary, his voice will be valuable during the debates. earthshine Jan 2019 #13
You got that right!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #67
What exactly is "progressive" about encouraging anyone to smear and denigrate Democrats? NurseJackie Jan 2019 #76
He will have to cough up his tax returns to get in the debates. n/t Apollyonus Jan 2019 #89
When his delegates booed John Lewis at our last convention. GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #105
I remember that. JL dissed Bernie first. earthshine Jan 2019 #107
You so blithely defend booing John Lewis? GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #110
Right. This was the march that he denied Bernie's presence, yes? earthshine Jan 2019 #115
Bernie was now at the Selma March!! LOL. GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #117
Sorry. He was at the March on Washington, not Selma. My bad. earthshine Jan 2019 #125
Please. You defended the booing of John Lewis. GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #127
I did not defend the booing. Enough of that. earthshine Jan 2019 #130
Mitch McConnell was at the Washington march too. comradebillyboy Jan 2019 #134
Your reply does not address my post. So, your point is irrelevant. earthshine Jan 2019 #137
He didn't say that. "I never saw him. I never met him" is what he said. betsuni Jan 2019 #116
Read his/her last reply to me. GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #118
It IS depressing. betsuni Jan 2019 #119
And John Lewis only said he never met Bernie. Because some of his delusional supporters claimed BS GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #120
Good point about young northern liberals in the 1880s. betsuni Jan 2019 #121
I was at the convention when the sanders delegates pulled this stunt Gothmog Jan 2019 #133
Phones with cameras blanket every square yard of civilization yet you've never posted a video. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2019 #158
Where you there? Gothmog Jan 2019 #160
Before I go chasing down some rabbit hole and read your long screed, no video? Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2019 #161
Ask your fellow sanders supporters who are JPR posters Gothmog Jan 2019 #164
That's absolutely true. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #168
Are sanders supporters getting worried? Gothmog Jan 2019 #193
Here is a video I pulled off Youtube Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #211
Doesn't anyone even read threads anymore? Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2019 #213
Time will tell Gothmog Feb 2019 #223
How about this: George II Jan 2019 #165
Nope. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2019 #167
I was there and so were a ton of other true Democrats Gothmog Jan 2019 #170
You know the old saying...."you can lead a horse to water................" George II Jan 2019 #171
S. Bee did a good segment on this Gothmog Jan 2019 #172
That's the one I was referring to, it was hysterical (and too true) George II Jan 2019 #177
I love Sam Bee Gothmog Feb 2019 #225
Again... ehrnst Jan 2019 #174
"To the Bernie or Bust people, you're being ridiculous" Sarah Silverman at the convention. betsuni Jan 2019 #219
"This isn't about Lewis but" Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2019 #221
There was disruption and Lewis was booed. betsuni Jan 2019 #222
The cheering by delegates was because we were warned in advance about this stunt Gothmog Jan 2019 #175
Not to mention, the whole point was that Senator Sanders had fewer delegates. KitSileya Apr 2019 #235
For this thread Gothmog Jan 2019 #169
OMG .. one must be comatose not to have remembered that Apollyonus Jan 2019 #214
I was there and I was shocked when I got the text from my whip Gothmog Feb 2019 #224
Perhaps you missed this: ehrnst Jan 2019 #173
That was outside of the convention that morning Gothmog Jan 2019 #176
The booing at Marcia Fudge when she opened the convention is also on video. ehrnst Jan 2019 #178
There were so many incidents like that incident that I lost count Gothmog Jan 2019 #179
Are you still in denial about what happen at the convention? Gothmog Feb 2019 #232
Some history Gothmog Feb 2019 #233
for This thread Gothmog Mar 2019 #234
JL said he didn't see BS at the march, most likely because BS wasn't there. lapucelle Jan 2019 #155
BERNIE TOOK NRA MONEY FLUSH FROM RUSSIA JUST LIKE TRUMP barbiegeek Jan 2019 #159
THIS n/t Apollyonus Jan 2019 #215
Talk about progressives... sheshe2 Jan 2019 #112
any candidate that pulls the party to the left is valuable in the primary. Grasswire2 Jan 2019 #126
So are you ok with the booing of John Lewis Apollyonus Jan 2019 #216
Nomination for what? Most divisive? we can do it Jan 2019 #14
Kind of agree, kinda don't. Glamrock Jan 2019 #19
Bernie won't last past NH mathematically Apollyonus Jan 2019 #217
Old Towne Media still up and running? KitSileya Apr 2019 #236
Look, I supported Sen. Sanders in the last primary Bettie Jan 2019 #20
His campaign may serve as non-violent "brass knuckles" to promote progressive policy position. David__77 Jan 2019 #36
Those things would be great and I think that we should work toward them Bettie Jan 2019 #77
The Democratic candidates are progressive enough Apollyonus Jan 2019 #92
Math needs to put away the hash pipe. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2019 #21
I do know a lot of "Bernie" people Bettie Jan 2019 #79
Just about everybody I know supported Bernie in the primaries The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2019 #81
The key point is that many of the candidates this year Bettie Jan 2019 #82
Put away the booze or whatever you are smoking. redstatebluegirl Jan 2019 #22
Math says to me, Donald Trump would love Bernie to run against him. Doodley Jan 2019 #24
+1 2naSalit Jan 2019 #138
I note that the "math" is based on him retaining 75% of what he had last time karynnj Jan 2019 #25
That would mean both parties are running kremlin candidates. RT can host the debates. PSPS Jan 2019 #26
He's a great favorite of their hosta and his former employees/surrogates Ninsianna Jan 2019 #42
Thanks for the chilling reminder. nt Hekate Jan 2019 #87
Math DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #27
Right Glamrock Jan 2019 #33
Except . . . DarthDem Jan 2019 #54
What you said. Sheesh.....🙄 sprinkleeninow Jan 2019 #60
True true. Glamrock Jan 2019 #63
Understood DarthDem Jan 2019 #106
Oh shit that's right! Glamrock Jan 2019 #132
You Got it! DarthDem Jan 2019 #181
However NewJeffCT Jan 2019 #152
Just like in 2016, Sanders will be effectively eliminated once the South and CA vote in early March. LonePirate Jan 2019 #28
And, CA will break heavily for Kamala Harris obamanut2012 Jan 2019 #48
He will keep on trucking Apollyonus Jan 2019 #86
why are you parroting RW smears against Bernie? Grasswire2 Jan 2019 #128
Bernie's tax returns will prove me wrong Apollyonus Jan 2019 #129
your disinformation is very troubling. Grasswire2 Jan 2019 #131
Wrong. The RW loves Bernie. Tad Devine and Paul Manafort R B Garr Jan 2019 #200
K&R CentralMass Jan 2019 #31
The math tells me that he has zero chance, assuming GoCubsGo Jan 2019 #32
He can switch to Dem anytime he feels like it. Glamrock Jan 2019 #34
Get back to me when he actually switches. GoCubsGo Jan 2019 #37
Be prepared. Glamrock Jan 2019 #39
But, not likely as a Democrat, which is what this post is about. GoCubsGo Jan 2019 #41
Hope that's not true Glamrock Jan 2019 #44
And stay warm up there in Chi-town Glamrock Jan 2019 #40
I live in South Carolina. GoCubsGo Jan 2019 #43
And you're a Cubs fan? Glamrock Jan 2019 #45
I was born and raised in Chicago. GoCubsGo Jan 2019 #49
My apologies! Glamrock Jan 2019 #51
Just goes to show you can use math ro prove anything if your assumptions are Takket Jan 2019 #35
No. Perhaps you don't speak Math? Ninsianna Jan 2019 #38
Math is a big part of my daily job NewJeffCT Jan 2019 #189
LOL betsuni Jan 2019 #192
Math is a big part of how I view the world especially stats and politics. Ninsianna Feb 2019 #228
the same concept NewJeffCT Feb 2019 #229
He will not win CA. I'd say he doesn't have a snow ball's chance in hell. wasupaloopa Jan 2019 #47
I am betting Kamala Harris will take CA and most southern states obamanut2012 Jan 2019 #50
Agreed. yardwork Jan 2019 #75
And, CA and many southern states are Super Tuesday states obamanut2012 Jan 2019 #186
You mispelled "meth" LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #52
Not if a Dem woman runs shanti Jan 2019 #53
Is this Meth Math? sarcasmo Jan 2019 #56
Public radio runs an ad for 'Math Lab'. (?) sprinkleeninow Jan 2019 #103
no reason to believe he gets 75% qazplm135 Jan 2019 #59
I voted for Bernie in the primary last time VMA131Marine Jan 2019 #61
I think your last sentence says it all DFW Jan 2019 #62
He hasnt confirmed yet he is running AlexSFCA Jan 2019 #64
... LexVegas Jan 2019 #68
Please bernie... do what's right for your country DONT run Thekaspervote Jan 2019 #69
K&R!!!!! Ernesto Jan 2019 #80
K&R barbiegeek Jan 2019 #157
Excellent analysis. Go Bernie! Joe941 Jan 2019 #70
Is he a Democrat yet? Hekate Jan 2019 #72
No ... and he never really is a Democrat. Greywing Jan 2019 #74
Fuzzy Math? nt Apollyonus Jan 2019 #84
That's not even close to how primaries play out. MyNameGoesHere Jan 2019 #85
hope not! he is too much like trump! demigoddess Jan 2019 #91
THIS Apollyonus Jan 2019 #94
A campaign based on assuring people their problems are someone else's fault Recursion Jan 2019 #136
Sanders will not get anywhere close to what he got in 2016 standingtall Jan 2019 #95
That is possible NewJeffCT Jan 2019 #99
Actually I doubt that he retains as much support as you think, BUT he does have a chance andym Jan 2019 #98
Not gonna happen. Warren will take at least half his votes. tinrobot Jan 2019 #100
He had the support of and extensive Russian operation in 2016 delisen Jan 2019 #102
Not new math, it's NewJeffMath! FSogol Jan 2019 #104
Voted Bernie on the primaries last time FreeState Jan 2019 #109
Math must not be your strong suit. honest.abe Jan 2019 #111
Not sure about the exact math... Mike Nelson Jan 2019 #113
I see that Bernie Math is back in action. Garrett78 Jan 2019 #114
I was just about to post about that Bernie math! KitSileya Jan 2019 #135
Bernie supporter last time... sfwriter Jan 2019 #139
You are the kind of person I'm talking about in post #162. (nt) apnu Jan 2019 #163
"Like Bernie, they fled the party the second they realized they are one voice among many here..." sfwriter Jan 2019 #180
The poster is right, though -- many did flee and voted for Trump obamanut2012 Jan 2019 #187
I thought only Democrats could run as a Democrat now? What did I miss? nt allgood33 Jan 2019 #140
NewJeff, start subtracting votes for Howard Schultz, Hortensis Jan 2019 #141
I don't see him as much of a factor NewJeffCT Jan 2019 #143
Me either yet, of course. But we know Bloomberg is Hortensis Jan 2019 #144
You're making too many assumptions in your calculation Blue_Tires Jan 2019 #147
That doesn't take into account vetting that has yet to be done, especially ehrnst Jan 2019 #150
Sanders got away without releasing tax returns last time NewJeffCT Jan 2019 #153
It will be different this time after all the attention focused on DT's hidden returns ehrnst Jan 2019 #154
Do these numbers presume Bernie cats stayed in the Dem party? apnu Jan 2019 #162
O'Malley wasn't on Sanders' left in 2016 NewJeffCT Jan 2019 #191
Next year won't be the same as 2016 - both Biden and Sanders will be four years older... George II Jan 2019 #166
Now math is the friend of Sanders supporters? MyNameGoesHere Jan 2019 #182
when did I say I was a Sanders supporter? NewJeffCT Jan 2019 #183
Obligatory: betsuni Jan 2019 #184
Reading comprehension is not a strength of yours now, is it? NewJeffCT Jan 2019 #188
LOL betsuni Jan 2019 #190
I love this video Gothmog Jan 2019 #195
It never gets old, very well done. betsuni Jan 2019 #220
#BernieMath...nt SidDithers Jan 2019 #185
You saw what I posted in my original post, right? NewJeffCT Jan 2019 #196
There is always a chance Apollyonus Jan 2019 #218
There is no math in January 2019, a year before people vote. themaguffin Jan 2019 #194
Provided those other candidates are still there when the primaries start. LiberalFighter Jan 2019 #197
Bernie has a chance if he runs ZeroSomeBrains Jan 2019 #198
what a list bdamomma Jan 2019 #199
well most of his followers are 4 yrs older now.. they have grown up and got jobs, married, kids... samnsara Jan 2019 #201
Math says to me Sanders would likely lead to a trump -- or other GOPer -- candidate's victory. Hoyt Jan 2019 #202
Bernie's time has past. dubyadiprecession Jan 2019 #203
How many of those 2016 voters that think he is "damaged goods" NewJeffCT Jan 2019 #205
I noticed I-Sanders is seeking photos ops with Ocasio. Hortensis Jan 2019 #210
That was then randr Jan 2019 #204
How novel, another Bernie thread. flibbitygiblets Jan 2019 #206
Of Course He Does (n/t) corbettkroehler Jan 2019 #207
I love DU math, lol cbdo2007 Jan 2019 #209
You forgot to carry the 2. nt TeamPooka Jan 2019 #212
If I understand correctly, the DNC passed a rule over the summer that says hughee99 Feb 2019 #226
Sanders May struggle in primaries Gothmog Feb 2019 #230
Yes - I had posted elsewhere just today NewJeffCT Feb 2019 #231
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