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Hortensis

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17. Trump's attempts to get Ukraine to create lies about Biden were
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 06:40 AM
Oct 2019

actually well known and reported by the MSM for months. The "brazen." I know I read it. Notably, our party's strategists had to have been examining that crime, among many, for actionability.

It was when public knowledge, which had mostly been shrugged off by the nation as Trump doing his usual, was presented in an insider whistleblower complaint, a "dark secrets coming out" restyling in a secrecy heuristic, that it finally caught fire as what it always should have been: a huge scandal.

Very interesting. Thanks, Applegrove.

Thanks! JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 #1
Most welcome. applegrove Oct 2019 #3
Trump lies openly and doesn't back down from the lies, he just moves on to the next lie Demovictory9 Oct 2019 #2
He honestly lies openly loyalsister Oct 2019 #21
But Trump did try to keep his request to Ukraine a secret. Kaleva Oct 2019 #4
But once caught he made it seem less important by doing it again only for china. applegrove Oct 2019 #6
K&R, The upfront form of gas lighting ... the counter is to tell him he's going to be impeached for uponit7771 Oct 2019 #5
Thanks for that article... Newest Reality Oct 2019 #7
"...more attention could be paid to the strategies he has honed." Garrett78 Oct 2019 #12
His China remarks have and will hurt him. Soliciting help from a foreign individual... brush Oct 2019 #8
It hasn't hurt him in terms of Republican support or his approval rating. Garrett78 Oct 2019 #13
The impeachment has to move forward or its a deriliction of the duty of the House... brush Oct 2019 #20
Oh I agree. I'm just not sure this is really having much impact on Trump yet. Garrett78 Oct 2019 #22
Yet he hides his taxes and foreign calls. Qutzupalotl Oct 2019 #9
The big lie is the easiest to slide by. ramen Oct 2019 #10
KR NT ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2019 #11
The Germans have boiled it down to a two word explanation. DFW Oct 2019 #14
Oh, we can boil it down to two words too... JHB Oct 2019 #15
Trump isn't smart enough to employ a psychological trick. Optical.Catalyst Oct 2019 #16
+1000 llmart Oct 2019 #19
Trump's attempts to get Ukraine to create lies about Biden were Hortensis Oct 2019 #17
You're welcome. applegrove Oct 2019 #18
K&R ck4829 Oct 2019 #23
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