General Discussion

I remember when Nixon got away with it-- pardoned by Ford.

Ford lost the presidency after that. Even Republicans thought it was a rigged job.

I think the more intransigent the Senate GOPers are, the more objectionable the voters will find their actions. Some Republican voters might even find it hard to vote for what they realize has become just the Trump party, which demonizes their previous stars like Romney and Bolton. And many independents are going to reject what is clearly a "Fix" and blame the entire GOP party.

If Trump would be removed, we'd have 10 months of Pence, which would let him spend all that time campaigning for November. (And he'd have 10 months to pardon Trump.)

But if the McConnell fix works (as it will), that stink will pervade the Trump/Pence campaign, and all their supporters. Trump can't pardon himself (watch him try though!), and as more revelations come out, it will be so obvious that the only way to escape this shitstorm is to vote him out. And that will vote Pence out, and probably ruin his political future.

I want Trump convicted, humiliated, expelled, jailed! But if the Senate GOP is going to abase itself in worship of him, well, that's going to stick to everyone of them. We could definitely win the presidency... and we could also get the senate. Maybe. It's a real stretch, but 2018 showed that incumbents could be beaten.

And Pence will be gone too. I think the best/worst might be Trump resigning in December after his terrible defeat, in exchange for a pardon. That would destroy the GOP in many independents' minds, and NYC and NY state could indict Trump then.

This isn't the end. There will be repercussions for the GOP treason.