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74. Unfortuately many people think just owning a gun is sufficient self defense
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 10:44 AM
Jun 2020

If you don't know how to shoot it, aren't comfortable and never practice a pistol is basically a paperweight. I live out in the middle of the desert, my theory is if you can't shoot or pee off your back porch you neighbors are too close, and my ex wife couldn't stand the sound of a pistol and wasn't comfortable shooting one. I let her try a short barrelled 20 gauge shotgun and she was set, I felt much better leaving her alone at home after that.

I went to buy a gun yesterday. [View all] live love laugh Jun 2020 OP
If you hate guns, I wouldn't buy one. roamer65 Jun 2020 #1
That is very true. dware Jun 2020 #4
America is heavily armed and it's not hunters captain queeg Jun 2020 #2
The 3% owns 50% of the guns" is totally made up. former9thward Jun 2020 #55
US study charts rise of hardcore super owners mercuryblues Jun 2020 #67
Total BS "study" former9thward Jun 2020 #88
I would recommend taking the class, dware Jun 2020 #3
For home defense... albacore Jun 2020 #70
Not if you want to live there afterwards. ManiacJoe Jun 2020 #132
With a shotgun or something, you'd be cleaning blood and guts off the walls and such... albacore Jun 2020 #133
I don't think you should get one. Get some good pepper spray. Patterson Jun 2020 #5
My heart goes out to you... BlueIdaho Jun 2020 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author CentralMass Jun 2020 #7
Not going to join you. Warpy Jun 2020 #8
If it is for home defense.. Squidly Jun 2020 #9
The biggest gun myth ever sarisataka Jun 2020 #11
Whatever.... Squidly Jun 2020 #13
Do tell- are you an FBI ballistics technician? sarisataka Jun 2020 #17
Are you? Squidly Jun 2020 #20
Nope, I can't quote muzzle velocities or the effects of bullet spin on terminal ballistics sarisataka Jun 2020 #28
This video will prove my point... Squidly Jun 2020 #30
Wow 😮 the video really shows the differences. nt live love laugh Jun 2020 #36
It also shows Squidly Jun 2020 #41
Pretty sure that's the Hague Convention(s), not Geneva. n/t sl8 Jun 2020 #69
You are correct Squidly Jun 2020 #76
Excellent video. Thanks. Owl Jun 2020 #37
That argument got killed pretty quick! Nature Man Jun 2020 #46
Ah shredded chicken for breakfast... sarisataka Jun 2020 #62
Lol Squidly Jun 2020 #68
I was not aware of that sarisataka Jun 2020 #90
I know absolutely nothing about guns LeftInTX Jun 2020 #81
Happy to answer your questions. Dial H For Hero Jun 2020 #86
It all comes down to what state and where in that state you are hunting Squidly Jun 2020 #97
I think only a handful of areas in a few states in the midwest still mandate shotguns for deer. Dial H For Hero Jun 2020 #102
A good video, it helps illustrate sarisataka Jun 2020 #92
In fairness, in the movie "Death Becomes Her" this happens to Goldie Hawn's character after Dial H For Hero Jun 2020 #38
Oh wow... Squidly Jun 2020 #42
Love that movie sarisataka Jun 2020 #63
You certainly know this... albacore Jun 2020 #134
not really into guns at all (and they are basically illegal to own and keep in your house here in Celerity Jun 2020 #52
Were shotguns responsible for all the amputations in the civil war? LeftInTX Jun 2020 #82
No EX500rider Jun 2020 #96
Especially if they were using round balls and smooth bore rifles Squidly Jun 2020 #100
No, it was because the Minie ball bullet was a large diameter and slow moving. NutmegYankee Jun 2020 #144
While a shotgun loaded with buckshot will do plenty of damage, PTWB Jun 2020 #107
I should have said Squidly Jun 2020 #120
I didn't know that about 38 special.. PTWB Jun 2020 #125
A shotgun has one serious drawback as a primary home defense weapon. Kaleva Jun 2020 #145
Think of a home defense gun as if it were a kitchen fire extinguisher Kaleva Jun 2020 #146
Wise choice at this time sarisataka Jun 2020 #10
Best advice ever. Thanks 🙏🏽 nt live love laugh Jun 2020 #12
You are welcome sarisataka Jun 2020 #24
This is why I don't buy a gun LeftInTX Jun 2020 #84
Very well said. Caliman73 Jun 2020 #27
Best answer. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #54
That is such good advice Maeve Jun 2020 #61
Very grounded and sensible post, thanks for writing this up sarisataka Devil Child Jun 2020 #65
Unfortuately many people think just owning a gun is sufficient self defense ripcord Jun 2020 #74
Wow. Can't believe I'm typing this on DU. But understand GulfCoast66 Jun 2020 #14
Well said Squidly Jun 2020 #15
Best post in this thread kcr Jun 2020 #108
You hate guns and you bought one anyway? PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2020 #16
No I didn't buy because they were out of stock live love laugh Jun 2020 #33
I'm going with good locks, a reliable security system and an always-charged cellphone StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #18
Someone breaking down my door at 2am...what will the cel phone do? EX500rider Jun 2020 #98
I doubt anyone will be able to kick in my steel security door StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #103
Assuming you have no other points of entry like windows that should help. EX500rider Jun 2020 #105
Yeeeeah, if hate guns u probably shouldnt get one, u have to practice a lot with a handgun to learn Baclava Jun 2020 #19
I dislike guns Olafjoy Jun 2020 #21
I think you''re in the wrong area rockfordfile Jun 2020 #22
Huh? live love laugh Jun 2020 #34
I have a super soaker to smite my enemies with. hunter Jun 2020 #23
Paintball would probably be better..LOL LeftInTX Jun 2020 #85
I hate guns too..My husband was in the military for helpisontheway Jun 2020 #25
Get A Dog Instead ChoppinBroccoli Jun 2020 #26
I hate guns too, but I have used a shotgun to kill a big snake. Never txwhitedove Jun 2020 #29
In 1966 I qualified on everything the Army had up to the Ron Green Jun 2020 #31
Simpler this way G_j Jun 2020 #32
That's the same argument many who refuse to wear masks make. Kaleva Jun 2020 #51
Are you equating wearing a mask with owning a gun? Ron Green Jun 2020 #58
Do you equate wearing a mask with living in fear? Kaleva Jun 2020 #83
I certainly wear a mask, and I don't see how that's living in fear. Ron Green Jun 2020 #94
I do both and I do not live in fear. Kaleva Jun 2020 #119
+1 - "I choose not to live in fear." I was going to recommend a class in meditation. c-rational Jun 2020 #71
Are you asserting that every person who chooses to own a firearm does so out of fear? Dial H For Hero Jun 2020 #95
No. People own guns for target shooting. Perhaps some young people Ron Green Jun 2020 #124
"I would never own a gun now, because I choose not to live in fear." EX500rider Jun 2020 #99
No one ever stole a smoke detecter to murder anyone kcr Jun 2020 #109
It's not that hard to properly secure a weapon. Also I was responding to it being out of fear. EX500rider Jun 2020 #110
If it's properly secured, then how is it effective? kcr Jun 2020 #111
Biometric safes are fast opening. nt EX500rider Jun 2020 #115
It's still opening kcr Jun 2020 #116
Someone kicking in my front door is not near my bedroom, I will have time, thxs. nt EX500rider Jun 2020 #118
Well, hey, I guess if you're lucky enough to live in a 12,000 sq ft mansion kcr Jun 2020 #126
Didn't say I did, but someone getting from my front toor to my bedroom in the dark will be all... EX500rider Jun 2020 #129
You mentioned "being prepared," but you may have a different Ron Green Jun 2020 #128
I never heard of a suicide from a smoke alarm or fire extinguisher or a kid killing themself...... Patterson Jun 2020 #112
Again, that has zero to do with whether all gun owners have a gun out of fear. nt EX500rider Jun 2020 #113
Im sorry Squidly Jun 2020 #122
... kcr Jun 2020 #127
And yet practiaclly gun free Japan has a higher rate then the US. nt EX500rider Jun 2020 #138
True, but in all honesty, Japan has an odd-ball counting system. ManiacJoe Jun 2020 #143
Don't feel bad vercetti2021 Jun 2020 #35
They do make alternate self defense kaotikross Jun 2020 #39
For protection on the street, pepper spray. safeinOhio Jun 2020 #40
At my previous job the head of security was an ex NYC police. He said he defused more problems mitch96 Jun 2020 #59
a cannister of bear spray and onethatcares Jun 2020 #43
Have you ever had to take a human life? Nature Man Jun 2020 #44
That is why I favor something that won't kill a person. Blue_true Jun 2020 #123
Guns are for killing. Nature Man Jun 2020 #130
Many people think that complete strangers will harm them. Blue_true Jun 2020 #131
IF you buy a gun, DO get trained on how to use it. cwydro Jun 2020 #45
I love it when all the gun nuts come out on the DU..... where's the popcorn......... mitch96 Jun 2020 #47
I resent that you lump us liberal gun owners into the gun nut category Squidly Jun 2020 #73
As you said in your previous post mitch96 Jun 2020 #89
Anybody thinking of buying a gun ought to read sarisataka's post #10 Kaleva Jun 2020 #48
I hate Guns, too The Finn Al Analysis Jun 2020 #49
When I tell you I still have no interest in buying a gun... Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2020 #50
Don't buy a gun if you hate guns. You'll never use it safely. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2020 #53
Don't buy one if you hate it that much. Happy Hoosier Jun 2020 #56
Yes plenty of 1st timers are buying guns - been since early March. If your revolted... jmg257 Jun 2020 #57
Good for you, you are wise to take steps to protect yourself as no one else will Devil Child Jun 2020 #60
Lol! Nt USALiberal Jun 2020 #93
Save your money. Really. MineralMan Jun 2020 #64
"If I were a criminal I'd be scared. America is armed.' Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #66
Sorry, intentional murder rates are way higher then accidental homicde. nt EX500rider Jun 2020 #139
Intentional murder can easily be carried out by an evildoer Ms. Toad Jun 2020 #141
I have firearms to protect my life, not my home. EX500rider Jun 2020 #142
What looting and violence has been inflicted on private homes? brooklynite Jun 2020 #72
None that I know of. MineralMan Jun 2020 #79
People that have not used guns should not buy guns. What do you think a gun will do? A mob is Demsrule86 Jun 2020 #75
Yesterday, I decided to get one before election day ecstatic Jun 2020 #77
I also hate what's been done with the second amendment. live love laugh Jun 2020 #80
"It was much better. " EX500rider Jun 2020 #101
That reminds me of an argument I've had on more than one occasion wherein someone asserts Dial H For Hero Jun 2020 #104
I question the validity of your data. live love laugh Jun 2020 #136
The chart goes back to the 1700's nt EX500rider Jun 2020 #137
See my comment - #71. I would suggest trying a class in meditation or philosophy. Learn to c-rational Jun 2020 #78
A firearm can be a great self defense tool with proper training of course madville Jun 2020 #87
I'm seeing a lot of posts like this, and I'm not criticizing them at all Polybius Jun 2020 #91
I actually hate guns kcr Jun 2020 #106
I'm curious as to what they recommended to you. aikoaiko Jun 2020 #114
It does seem to be mainly cowardly types that want to feel tough that want guns JI7 Jun 2020 #117
Just buy a can of bear spray and make sure that you Blue_true Jun 2020 #121
Just from reading your post, may I recommend Dan Jun 2020 #135
If I were any sane American I'd be scared. lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #140
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