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(56,582 posts) Wed Nov 22, 2023, 07:08 AM Nov 2023

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Joe Biden will get no credit for the Gaza ceasefire. None. [View all]

And it's a damn shame, and he doesn't care. He took this job to make things better, and once again he's pulled a damn rabbit out of a hat.

He got a ceasefire. He's getting hostages out, along with a ladder to extend the ceasefire for the release of more hostages.

I say this as a committed Obama fan: Joe Biden is the greatest President of my lifetime.

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Joe Biden will get no credit for the Gaza ceasefire. None. [View all] Recursion Nov 2023 OP

That's part of his strength, he's a humanitarian, he doesn't care who gets the credit if he can bring peace Walleye Nov 2023 #1

I don't know if he's the greatest of my lifetime, but he (along with Jimmy Carter) is the most modest. DFW Nov 2023 #2

The election is a year away .. agingdem Nov 2023 #3

He has an unselfish reason to start needing to care more about getting credit for what he does Silent3 Nov 2023 #4

In my humble opinion, there should never have been a cease fire. SlimJimmy Nov 2023 #5

Disagree. nt Celerity Nov 2023 #7

Disagree! pazzyanne Nov 2023 #9

so Israel had not destroyed enough of Gaza for you? LymphocyteLover Nov 2023 #12

For some on this site radicalleft Nov 2023 #16

Ah, "some on this site" again. "Some" are the worst. maxsolomon Nov 2023 #33

I see the Hamas propaganda is strong in you. SlimJimmy Nov 2023 #22

Not so much this time Big Blue Marble Nov 2023 #34

Cost enid602 Nov 2023 #52

I've been more supportive of Israel's response than most here. But there's been too much destruction LymphocyteLover Nov 2023 #38

I was against this all from the start because I had a feeling the IDF was going to go too far Lanius Nov 2023 #40

Did General Sherman say it was time for a pause when he was marching to the SlimJimmy Nov 2023 #50

Although Sherman is famous for being ruthless and burning Southern cities, LymphocyteLover Nov 2023 #58

Although bad things happen TheFarseer Nov 2023 #61

you mean Union forces, the IDF or both? LymphocyteLover Nov 2023 #62

I was talking about Union forces TheFarseer Nov 2023 #63

He took all the food and burned their farms and cities. SlimJimmy Nov 2023 #64

Killing more than 10,000 isn't avoiding civilian casualties. Lanius Nov 2023 #39

I'm saying that taking the word of the Hamas run Gaza Health Ministry is folly. SlimJimmy Nov 2023 #66

how many do you think it is? It surely is in the thousands LymphocyteLover Nov 2023 #67

Possibly. And how many of those is Hamas responsible for? SlimJimmy Nov 2023 #68

Hamas bears a huge part of the blame but there should be accountability for every home bombed in Gaza LymphocyteLover Nov 2023 #71

Agreed SlimJimmy Nov 2023 #73

Meanwhile in the West Bank - shove those old ladies while taking their houses womanofthehills Nov 2023 #59

The West Bank, formally known as Sameria and Judea for thousands of years. SlimJimmy Nov 2023 #65

That's a really unfair comment. n/t EndlessWire Nov 2023 #43

Not enough dead babies yet? Basic LA Nov 2023 #18

If Hamas didn't put them in harms way (on purpose) SlimJimmy Nov 2023 #20

That same argument was used to justify burning down villages in Vietnam Lanius Nov 2023 #41

The international community's rules for war disagrees with your assessment. SlimJimmy Nov 2023 #49

This is so obviously collective punishment. David__77 Nov 2023 #24

I'm confused. Why do you assume it's our call to accept/reject this agreement? MyNameIsJonas Nov 2023 #27

I'm giving my opinion. SlimJimmy Nov 2023 #53

You didn't answer my question. MyNameIsJonas Nov 2023 #56

Hamas does not have control over all of the hostages... DemocraticPatriot Nov 2023 #51

Obama fan here, too, and I couldn't agree with you more calimary Nov 2023 #6

i agree.. i was ready to follow obama to a desert island if he set up a colony samnsara Nov 2023 #8

True!! TSExile Nov 2023 #10

And the chatter is now about how that only gives Hamas the chance to reboot. Native Nov 2023 #11

This so sad to against any kind of cease fire. Lives are at risk. sjr2323 Nov 2023 #15

It's just SOP for the media. I'm surprised they haven't started with "only" 50 yet. Native Nov 2023 #17

Did the Germans reboot after Dresden and they surrendered? SlimJimmy Nov 2023 #23

Apparently the nazi reboot just took a little longer... getagrip_already Nov 2023 #26

There is no national Nazi reboot in Germany. SlimJimmy Nov 2023 #54

No, it's booting here. Or didnt you notice? Nt getagrip_already Nov 2023 #55

Hamas can't reboot Butterflylady Nov 2023 #29

4 or 5 days is inconsequential. Calista241 Nov 2023 #31

I agree with this. EndlessWire Nov 2023 #44

That's our media for you Bettie Nov 2023 #13

Worse than that he will be blamed Voltaire2 Nov 2023 #14

This is what... 2naSalit Nov 2023 #37

He should care. RandomNumbers Nov 2023 #19

Definitely the greatest President of my lifetime as well PatSeg Nov 2023 #21

Do you think perhaps protesters will stop referring to him sarisataka Nov 2023 #25

Bigger achievement he should get credit for: no widespread regional war or WWIII. I imagine wiggs Nov 2023 #28

Exactly this Deep State Witch Nov 2023 #30

It's not a ceasefire miffelplix Nov 2023 #32

A ceasefire can last for hours, days, weeks, months, or longer. This is a ceasefire. David__77 Nov 2023 #35

Statement from President Biden on the Hostage Release in Gaza LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2023 #36

I know Biden had to back Israel publicly, but he could have been savvier with his wording in the early days of the war Lanius Nov 2023 #42

Mr. Biden has always been underestimated. wyldwolf Nov 2023 #45

Well, I'm crediting him, as are many here. NNadir Nov 2023 #46

Thank you President Biden for the hard work in negotiating this hostage release LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2023 #47

Joe Biden will get little credit but ample blame. hay rick Nov 2023 #48

Headline wryter2000 Nov 2023 #57

Thanks to Joe Biden's inflation TheFarseer Nov 2023 #60

Biden makes great "presidenting" look easy gulliver Nov 2023 #69

The exercises of both extremes will make sure he doesn't 340ing Nov 2023 #70

President Biden's persistent pressure on Middle East leaders was a key factor in sealing the deal LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2023 #72