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In reply to the discussion: Jon Stewart should stand aside and let someone younger run the show [View all]bigtree
(86,013 posts)150. he's not being crucified, he's being called out for his own behavior
...like when he worked overtime to be the cool guy in 2015 with his clumsy focus on Hillary's emails and publicly trashing her like he'd ever accomplish as much as the former Senator and First Lady in his silly life.
washingtonpost 2015
Jon Stewart perfectly diagnosed the problem with Hillary Clintons candidacy
by Chris Cillizza
twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/730817827922411521
...maybe you don't remember any of this.
New Republic, February 13, 2015
Jon Stewart Made America More Cynical
But at least one ode rang false. At The Atlantic, David Sims wrote that Stewarts willingness to swipe at every hagiography or exaggeration presented by politicians and media alike made him the most trusted man on television in an era of profound cynicism. But Stewart shouldnt get a free pass, just because hes funny: He did his part to foster that atmosphere of distrust and scorn. Hardly anyoneright or left, public figure or ordinary citizencould assume they were exempt from his mockery. Ive often found that watching Stewart attack everyone for half an hour can leave you feeling kind of hopeless.
Empirical research supports this idea. In 2004, Jody Baumgartner and Jonathan Morris, political scientists at East Carolina University, designed an experiment to look at how watching The Daily Show affected viewers feelings toward politicians of both parties...
Baumgartner and Morris asked members of the control group about their media consumption habits and attitudes toward the candidates and, interestingly, found that regularly watching the The Daily Show was the strongest predictor of lacking faith in the electoral system and distrusting the news media. Other comic-news shows, like The Jay Leno Show or Late Show With David Letterman, didnt have the same effect.
https://newrepublic.com/article/121069/jon-stewart-made-viewers-more-cynical
Jon Stewart Made America More Cynical
But at least one ode rang false. At The Atlantic, David Sims wrote that Stewarts willingness to swipe at every hagiography or exaggeration presented by politicians and media alike made him the most trusted man on television in an era of profound cynicism. But Stewart shouldnt get a free pass, just because hes funny: He did his part to foster that atmosphere of distrust and scorn. Hardly anyoneright or left, public figure or ordinary citizencould assume they were exempt from his mockery. Ive often found that watching Stewart attack everyone for half an hour can leave you feeling kind of hopeless.
Empirical research supports this idea. In 2004, Jody Baumgartner and Jonathan Morris, political scientists at East Carolina University, designed an experiment to look at how watching The Daily Show affected viewers feelings toward politicians of both parties...
Baumgartner and Morris asked members of the control group about their media consumption habits and attitudes toward the candidates and, interestingly, found that regularly watching the The Daily Show was the strongest predictor of lacking faith in the electoral system and distrusting the news media. Other comic-news shows, like The Jay Leno Show or Late Show With David Letterman, didnt have the same effect.
https://newrepublic.com/article/121069/jon-stewart-made-viewers-more-cynical
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I expected something good and got a mouthful of fetid rat shit. Motherfucking lazy bullshit about Biden.
SoFlaBro
Feb 13
#66
I'll give Stewart one more fucking week. He gets the first week to unload the dogshit. Now time to get goddamn serious.
SoFlaBro
Feb 13
#168
At least find some new material. The Biden is old schtick is exactly that : old schtick.
LakeArenal
Feb 15
#184
I'll even listen to a new tack on the "Biden is old" schtick. He's old. So what? Is he doing the fucking job or not?
SoFlaBro
Feb 15
#187
what you're really saying here, in a demeaning way, is that I should share your view
bigtree
Feb 13
#36
Or you could support your argument with something other than pointless defiance
BeyondGeography
Feb 13
#41
He's going to be on only one day a week. The younger folks have four days a week to get laughs.
ificandream
Feb 13
#42
No, Maher has been consistent about ageism, always said it's the last acceptable prejudice in America.
betsuni
Feb 13
#159
Because the choice is so clear, the choices are both old because that's the way it is.
LakeArenal
Feb 13
#134
Stewart doesn't have a viable alternative because he's not advocating for an alternative to Biden
fishwax
Feb 13
#84
no, but rather the opposite -- it's cynical to pretend or insist that it isn't true that Biden is an old man
fishwax
Feb 13
#102
let's see if you understand what ratfucking Democrats in a presidential election looks like
bigtree
Feb 13
#115
I'm sorry if you feel I've ridiculed your opinion. I do feel that the claim is blatantly false.
fishwax
Feb 13
#131
I don't think Jon Stewart did "Both Sides," or that he would help save democracy by not criticizing Biden
fishwax
Feb 13
#143
I always get a hoot out of folks who think publicly criticizing the party or president is some sort of political genius
bigtree
Feb 13
#100
Today on "The View" the Republican co-host made that argument, that because the stakes are so high
betsuni
Feb 13
#163
He has said many times, in many ways, that he'd vote for anyone running against tsf
redqueen
Feb 13
#135
"Jon Stewart Tackles The Biden-Trump Rematch That Nobody Wants The Daily Show"
W_HAMILTON
Feb 13
#146
He's only on Mondays. I vote: give the show back to him. Have Colbert do a 'werd' segment every day.
marble falls
Feb 13
#3
I just wish Noah had a chance to get more familiar with American English, it almost felt like ...
marble falls
Feb 13
#56
No doubt about it. Living long is a terrible back-up plan for a future-dependent endeavor.
jaxexpat
Feb 13
#105
Thank you, sanity! Some folks here are contrary for dubious reasons, enjoying controversy at the expense of civility....
jaxexpat
Feb 13
#103
Anyone want to fill us in why our side would possibly have pitchforks out for Jon Stewart? nt
ramen
Feb 13
#20
He was wrong about Hillary, promoting the "I just don't trust her" "she has no message, stands for nothing"
betsuni
Feb 14
#173
Seriously.... He continuously points out the hypocrisy and fascist right...
Chakaconcarne
Feb 13
#26
Someone younger did run the show. Trever Noah and a some others. The show lost a lot of viewers.
Autumn
Feb 13
#49
they have zero alternative and they're playing politics instead of participating in it
bigtree
Feb 13
#76
I love Jon Stewart and so do LOTS of adults. If you saw his show last night that's what it was all about.
flying_wahini
Feb 13
#70
How many different ways can you reframe "Biden is old"? Did Stewart do a fuck thing to nudge the conversation forward?
SoFlaBro
Feb 13
#77
When do we throw Colbert under the bus? He makes jokes about Biden's age as well.
onenote
Feb 13
#73
He's a comedian, not a cheerleader. I won't be watching because I was never a fan
tritsofme
Feb 13
#116
Stewart does seem to be engaging in bothsiderism and encouraging Third party voting
Kennah
Feb 13
#137
Coming up on Jake Tapper. He just said this is coming up... that democrats are not happy
IcyPeas
Feb 13
#152