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Catherina

(35,568 posts)
93. Does not compute. Sorry.
Fri Mar 22, 2013, 06:15 PM
Mar 2013

Last edited Fri Mar 22, 2013, 10:18 PM - Edit history (1)

"He asked me for money and I said I didn't have it," she said. "When you have a baby, you spend all your money on babies. They're expensive. And he kept asking and I just said `I don't have it.' And he said, `Do you want me to kill your baby?' And I said, `No, don't kill my baby!'"
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Then he fired at her head and the bullet grazed her left ear - she has a small scab and bruising there. He fired again and shot her in the left leg above the knee. "I didn't know I was hurt."the mother was the only witness to what happened.

"The boy proceeded to go around to the stroller and he shot my baby in the face," she said. "And then he just shoved me when I started screaming and he ran down London Street with the little boy.

... the mother was the only witness to what happened.... It's not the mother's first loss of a child to violence.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/22/antonio-santiago-west-dead-georgia-baby-killed_n_2931273.html

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I don't understand why she didn't just give up her purse. Mika Mar 2013 #1
Wow. One post and it is the victims fault. joeglow3 Mar 2013 #2
Police are not ruling anything or anyone out cali Mar 2013 #3
check your nose, because they arrested the boys. bettyellen Mar 2013 #83
based on what? demwing Mar 2013 #85
This message was self-deleted by its author CreekDog Mar 2013 #120
What doesn't smell right? Life Long Dem Mar 2013 #187
I agree with you Cali. FarPoint Mar 2013 #205
Do you often put words in other people mouths/posts? Mika Mar 2013 #4
She has every right to say "hey you piece of fucking shit, this is my purse. joeglow3 Mar 2013 #7
sure, but honestly what sane person would put themselves and their baby at risk cali Mar 2013 #14
Honestly, it is impossible that she actually had no money to give joeglow3 Mar 2013 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author CreekDog Mar 2013 #39
Well, the police apparently buy it. There have already been arrests. pnwmom Mar 2013 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author CreekDog Mar 2013 #96
Oh FFS. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #97
It never fails to amaze me how some people are so quick think the worst about people Downtown Hound Mar 2013 #105
Who gives a ---- marions ghost Mar 2013 #108
What makes you think that the poster is in any way, shape, or form, related to a "gun culture"? AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #178
Gun Culture means that people marions ghost Mar 2013 #182
This message was self-deleted by its author marions ghost Mar 2013 #180
She pretty much did that. And look where it got them. Mika Mar 2013 #16
And women should not wear "slutty" clothes joeglow3 Mar 2013 #22
Step back. Take a breath. Mika Mar 2013 #27
At a minimum, your response is odd joeglow3 Mar 2013 #30
No pontificating on my part. Just asking why she valued her purse more than her baby. Mika Mar 2013 #36
Did she have a purse? leftynyc Mar 2013 #42
Yes. Here ... Mika Mar 2013 #44
Maybe it was just a reflex to pull away Rex Mar 2013 #50
There are probably other things in that purse besides any money she might have had slackmaster Mar 2013 #53
Even after they threatened to shoot your baby if you didn't hand it over? Mika Mar 2013 #58
I have been trained to fight back in that situation, if escape is not possible slackmaster Mar 2013 #60
Oh Lawd! alcibiades_mystery Mar 2013 #87
Go gitt'im Tiger! Downtown Hound Mar 2013 #106
Unless you have been in that situation yourself Aerows Mar 2013 #159
My martial arts instructor told our class. ... spin Mar 2013 #157
Um... bitchkitty Mar 2013 #163
"The eyes are the mirror of the soul" is a Yiddish proverb. (n/t) spin Mar 2013 #172
Yea, let me know how that works out bitchkitty Mar 2013 #186
Since my situational awareness has never failed me ... spin Mar 2013 #203
MAYBE marions ghost Mar 2013 #109
Maybe because she's a human who never imagined someone could kill a baby? pnwmom Mar 2013 #51
They threatened to shoot the baby if she didn't hand over the purse. Mika Mar 2013 #55
Why should anyone believe a word they say? slackmaster Mar 2013 #62
Well, they did do what they said they'd do if she didn't hand it over. Mika Mar 2013 #63
Very good point. Rex Mar 2013 #65
I think I know why some people had the strange knee-jerk reaction, and it isn't pretty. slackmaster Mar 2013 #67
The police have already arrested teens fitting the description, so apparently they believe her. n/t pnwmom Mar 2013 #71
Exactly, google "never trust your assailant." nt raccoon Mar 2013 #102
You can't be seriously arguing that she's culpable. So what is your point? pnwmom Mar 2013 #64
I AM NOT making any such argument. Mika Mar 2013 #66
Shock. Rex Mar 2013 #68
Yes. Exactly. nt pnwmom Mar 2013 #70
Maybe because her body was surging with stress hormones so her brain wasn't functioning pnwmom Mar 2013 #69
This message was self-deleted by its author Mz Pip Mar 2013 #78
+++++duh marions ghost Mar 2013 #110
By asking the question, you make the statement riqster Mar 2013 #76
Knee jerk all you want, but, I'm not. Mika Mar 2013 #77
How is saying the 'mother is in shock' from having her life threatened Rex Mar 2013 #80
Wrong. I'm saying that you accusing me of blaming the mother is knee jerking. Mika Mar 2013 #88
Point out where I accused you of blaming the mother. Rex Mar 2013 #90
Sorry, Rex. I should have referred to riqster in post #88, and not you. Mika Mar 2013 #92
NP Mika...these sub-threads are getting tedious Rex Mar 2013 #94
I'm not blaming her in the slightest. I'm trying to explain to you why her reaction pnwmom Mar 2013 #98
"I'm just askin'" is a tired, pathetic cliche muriel_volestrangler Mar 2013 #119
It's always so easy to critique and second guess Downtown Hound Mar 2013 #104
Absolutely marions ghost Mar 2013 #112
+1 Rex Mar 2013 #173
My sis in law marions ghost Mar 2013 #176
Running around with the wrong crowd at 15 Rex Mar 2013 #195
I had it happen, large handgun at point blank also marions ghost Mar 2013 #199
The cops were waiting for us. Rex Mar 2013 #206
This message was self-deleted by its author marions ghost Mar 2013 #175
Its very possible.. sendero Mar 2013 #127
Nobody outside this situation has HappyMe Mar 2013 #161
Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #144
Honestly, you should be ashamed theHandpuppet Mar 2013 #155
I read the ops link and there is no mention of a purse. rainy Mar 2013 #142
I posted the link in this thread several times. n/t Mika Mar 2013 #143
She probably couldn't think what to do. She was accosted and threatened with a gun... Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #197
Criminals don't recognize your rights. That's why they're called criminals. nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #111
Well, we know that guns don't kill people. pnwmom Mar 2013 #49
And not wearing slutty dresses can stop u from being raped joeglow3 Mar 2013 #103
Maybe they would've shot the baby anyway... love_katz Mar 2013 #6
maybe you should wait to see if the mother's account holds up cali Mar 2013 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author CreekDog Mar 2013 #21
I'm not blaming the mother. I'm saying her account of it doesn't cali Mar 2013 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author CreekDog Mar 2013 #31
Well, it does ring true. RebelOne Mar 2013 #81
Thank you, CreekDog. love_katz Mar 2013 #54
Are you embarrassed yet? They have arrested two boys MineralMan Mar 2013 #52
Maybe you should wait to see the evidence that law enforcement has on the guys Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #198
What purse? slackmaster Mar 2013 #12
I heard her say it in an earlier vid on TV. Here ... Mika Mar 2013 #28
where does it say she even had a purse? Beaverhausen Mar 2013 #47
Who said she didn't? Who said she even had a purse? pnwmom Mar 2013 #48
I posted the link several times, yet you ignore it. Mika Mar 2013 #183
Oh my god. liberalmuse Mar 2013 #56
Where did I blame? Fer christs sake, i asked why she didn't just hand the purse over. n/t Mika Mar 2013 #61
keep digging. you're burying yourself dionysus Mar 2013 #158
what purse? demwing Mar 2013 #82
Read thru the thread. I've posted the link here 2 times. eom Mika Mar 2013 #84
thanks /nt demwing Mar 2013 #113
When I go for walks in my neighborhood - which is almost every day - I never, ever carry my purse. patricia92243 Mar 2013 #107
Again ... Mika Mar 2013 #184
I'm sure a lot of people wondered that. I'm guessing she couldn't think fast enuf what to do. Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #114
It wasn't theirs. Deep13 Mar 2013 #131
I don't understand why they executed a baby. joshcryer Mar 2013 #150
Message auto-removed chocolatewatchband Mar 2013 #174
Gun nuts shrug and return to their gun porn. nt onehandle Mar 2013 #5
Dehumanizing people is what lead to this atrocity. Try not to contribute. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2013 #33
"Gun nuts" think she should have a right to shoot back. Deep13 Mar 2013 #132
This message was self-deleted by its author onehandle Mar 2013 #8
This would be shocking in another country Cali_Democrat Mar 2013 #9
It's shocking here slackmaster Mar 2013 #15
No....gun violence is not shocking in America. Cali_Democrat Mar 2013 #19
If it wasn't shocking then why the outcry? NutmegYankee Mar 2013 #25
I suppose people have different reactions. Cali_Democrat Mar 2013 #43
That's bullcrap. slackmaster Mar 2013 #32
Is it a gun problem, or a bad parenting problem? Skip Intro Mar 2013 #38
There may be some truth to this. AverageJoe90 Mar 2013 #41
"If the woman in this story had had a gun, her baby might still be alive" Cali_Democrat Mar 2013 #45
Maybe a GOP talking point, but I sure haven't seen anyone post that on DU slackmaster Mar 2013 #57
Wow, great answer. Skip Intro Mar 2013 #95
This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Mar 2013 #149
Why does it have to be either or? wryter2000 Mar 2013 #75
Duh duh duh --Bad parenting and bad society marions ghost Mar 2013 #118
Right marions ghost Mar 2013 #116
Yes, it's shocking here for someone to shoot a baby in the face. nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #115
Most people will forget about it tomorrow marions ghost Mar 2013 #122
Well, I'm shocked. So it's shocking. That is different from what to do about it. Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #125
Not shocked enough to really care marions ghost Mar 2013 #128
Back to culture war again, eh? Can't let one opportunity to cast moral aspersion pass? Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #153
You're damn right I blame... marions ghost Mar 2013 #160
I blame the half-hearted manner in which our 49-year War On Poverty has been conducted slackmaster Mar 2013 #164
Yeah I agree but marions ghost Mar 2013 #165
Anyone could buy a rifle, shotgun, or handgun by mail-order with no questions asked in 1964. slackmaster Mar 2013 #166
We are an anomaly among civilized nations marions ghost Mar 2013 #168
I'd like to see the root problems of violent crime addressed. slackmaster Mar 2013 #169
Yep marions ghost Mar 2013 #170
Heard it live, which confirms what I said: Culture war... Eleanors38 Mar 2013 #167
The fact that someone else thinks there's a solution different from yours makes Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #193
did they have the 2nd press conference with updates yet ? based on CNN JI7 Mar 2013 #10
Well...I'll wait and see what comes out before deciding what I think. TwilightGardener Mar 2013 #13
I am in the corner with you. Something doesn't seem right about this situation. I may bluestate10 Mar 2013 #141
This one doesn't pass the smell test kudzu22 Mar 2013 #17
I know what you mean, but in this case, they've arrested the guys, and I saw her on tv.... Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #117
Yes, I'm very glad I was wrong kudzu22 Mar 2013 #171
As I did yesterday, I'll just wait and see what develops here MineralMan Mar 2013 #18
According to her. I'm not 100% convinced. Quantess Mar 2013 #20
CNN reporting that police have arrested two youths in this case. BlueCheese Mar 2013 #23
A $10,000 bounty. Mika Mar 2013 #34
Sorry-- what does that mean? BlueCheese Mar 2013 #37
The person who gave the tip will get $10k if the tip leads to arrest & conviction.nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #192
17 and 14. nt Skip Intro Mar 2013 #35
Exactly as I guessed. Get the records of which sterling youth weren't in schools. alphafemale Mar 2013 #72
This... doesn't smell right. Marr Mar 2013 #29
Jesus nt. lefty_mcduff Mar 2013 #40
Not sure what does not smell right about this timdog44 Mar 2013 #46
There are NO extenuating circumstances here! marions ghost Mar 2013 #126
Absoultely timdog44 Mar 2013 #129
I haven't been in the multiple threads marions ghost Mar 2013 #134
It is just as ugly timdog44 Mar 2013 #135
That is my Number One question also-- marions ghost Mar 2013 #137
What exactly does NOT SMELL RIGHT? Why question the victim's story? How fucked up can you get? KittyWampus Mar 2013 #73
Susan Smith.. HipChick Mar 2013 #89
The cynics should realize that the police have already arrested two teens. pnwmom Mar 2013 #99
So I wonder why the Police are still saying they are investigating all aspects of the story HipChick Mar 2013 #101
Diane Downs and Charles Stuart, too REP Mar 2013 #138
Thank you for mentioning those cases. nt raccoon Mar 2013 #162
Also, the victim's other son was killed as he was trying to kill someone REP Mar 2013 #204
Notice how they make sure to mention the race of the murdering pricks first? REP Mar 2013 #74
I think public safety is served by releasing as much descriptive information as possible... slackmaster Mar 2013 #79
As I mentioned, when giving the BOLO info, age/race/sex makes sense; in that para, it didn't. REP Mar 2013 #136
On our local Atlanta WSBTV report of the arrest RebelOne Mar 2013 #86
It doesn't matter now. I mattered a lot before they were arrested. slackmaster Mar 2013 #91
Maybe it was a hate crime. Zax2me Mar 2013 #147
Does not compute. Sorry. Catherina Mar 2013 #93
what does not compute ? they arrested 2 in this case JI7 Mar 2013 #100
One thing: public street, plain view, several people heard the shots. If this were fake, Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #123
The police would have done a GSR test on the mother's hands, first thing. Ikonoklast Mar 2013 #130
Do you have a link, please. I would like to read all the article "not the mother's first loss of a patricia92243 Mar 2013 #133
She lost an older son to a knife attack. Here is a good link with fuller story: NYC_SKP Mar 2013 #145
Her son was the armed mugger. The victim got the better of him & killed him.nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #194
I edited the post to add it Catherina Mar 2013 #146
I have been on every thread I can find on this. timdog44 Mar 2013 #121
+1 It's shocking even for DU. nt Union Scribe Mar 2013 #151
Evil people do harm. Sometimes they can't be stopped. They have the element of surprise, Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #202
Every thing is fine in our inner-city.... lib2DaBone Mar 2013 #124
Robert Thompson and Jon Venables were 10 when they murdered a 2 year old in Liverpool, UK REP Mar 2013 #139
Wow. This is Israel's fault? Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #201
My take on this: America is going insane. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #140
Stone. Cold. Gone. Zax2me Mar 2013 #148
Things are different.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #152
I don't know what happened here, but in the 80's, I was visiting my sister at Christmastime... MiddleFingerMom Mar 2013 #154
and nothing is going Niceguy1 Mar 2013 #156
I can't believe the people here that are blaming the mother. appleannie1 Mar 2013 #177
Maybe, for some, it's easier than believing America's youth are really this lost. Barack_America Mar 2013 #179
With the love of guns and lack of humanity there is now in this country this horrorific appleannie1 Mar 2013 #181
...and your suggestions are... Keefer Mar 2013 #191
I don't think the majority of America's youth would murder a baby like this octothorpe Mar 2013 #208
A few people made a knee-jerk association with the Susan Smith case slackmaster Mar 2013 #185
The Charles Stuart Case.. HipChick Mar 2013 #188
I noted the differences between the two cases. nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #200
This message was self-deleted by its author Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #196
I'd want the lying family members prosecuted as well. Zax2me Mar 2013 #189
Mugshot of 17 year old suspect released madville Mar 2013 #190
I saw the mother being interviewed. She said she wouldn't mind if the kids died for this applegrove Mar 2013 #207
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