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33. that isn't necessarily true

Sun Jan 5, 2014, 08:54 PM

Jan 2014

it would depend upon how high he lifts the standard deduction. Currently the 10 percent rate only covers the first 8900 of income. The difference if he raised it by nothing would be less than 500 so if he raised the deduction by only 500, and it sounds like he is raising it by a lot more than that, then he won't have raised their taxes.

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We can't afford any more of Obama's Grand Bargains. [View all] last1standing Jan 2014 OP

there haven't been any.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #1

There's nothing "Grand" about bending over for repukes. L0oniX Jan 2014 #2

really more like grand buggery leftyohiolib Jan 2014 #3

Fact is, little is more unbecoming than bending over for repukes indepat Jan 2014 #4

I'm sure Obama will get some "Grand" speaking fees when he leaves office. last1standing Jan 2014 #5

Sounds like good ole boyism on steroids. Baitball Blogger Jan 2014 #6

It is truly indefensible 1000words Jan 2014 #7

Our President is a 3d term Clinton/Bush, imho. saidsimplesimon Jan 2014 #8

So I understand this. We give more tax cuts to…. Bonhomme Richard Jan 2014 #9

And that's Obama's starting point in negotiations. last1standing Jan 2014 #11

It could look like Ron Wyden's proposal ProSense Jan 2014 #13

Not likely since Wyden's plan doesn't mention infrastructure. last1standing Jan 2014 #14

Wyden's plan sucks. ProSense Jan 2014 #19

You and I agree on that. last1standing Jan 2014 #20

i like the idea of tripling the standard deduction questionseverything Jan 2014 #27

that isn't necessarily true dsc Jan 2014 #33

They're still subject to an increased tax rate. ProSense Jan 2014 #35

actually we don't even know that dsc Jan 2014 #36

Grand Bargain is an oxymoron. n/t winter is coming Jan 2014 #10

I don't know. It's certainly a grand bargain for the wealthy. last1standing Jan 2014 #15

let the ACA play out... quadrature Jan 2014 #12

Meh. DeSwiss Jan 2014 #16

When we have the first, let the rest of us know nt Progressive dog Jan 2014 #17

The first stimulus package, ACA, reduced tax hikes.... last1standing Jan 2014 #18

Those were "grand bargains"? ProSense Jan 2014 #24

Yes. Really. last1standing Jan 2014 #29

No, the ProSense Jan 2014 #37

I think most of us remember Obama saying he had to move right for the republicans. last1standing Jan 2014 #38

? ProSense Jan 2014 #39

Revisionism will only take you so fare. last1standing Jan 2014 #40

Remembering Lieberman doesn't require "revisionism." Another thing, ProSense Jan 2014 #41

No, but ignoring the rest of the story does. last1standing Jan 2014 #42

The 'Grand Bargain' in the ACA occurred during the negotiations that took place . . . markpkessinger Jan 2014 #43

Getting legislation ProSense Jan 2014 #44

You're not supposed to remember that. last1standing Jan 2014 #45

Remember what: That 17 Million Americans became eligible for Medicaid? ProSense Jan 2014 #50

No they didn't and ACA has nothing to do with a stimulus Progressive dog Jan 2014 #57

If you're only accepting "officially branded" grand bargains, you're right. last1standing Jan 2014 #59

If you call every bill a grand bargain because Progressive dog Jan 2014 #60

Lol! Yes, my "bizarre hatred" of being sold out time and time again is the problem. last1standing Jan 2014 #64

Your bizarre hate for Obama trumps your pretense of being a Democrat Progressive dog Jan 2014 #65

And now you're not even making sense. Are your feeling that hurt? last1standing Jan 2014 #84

Would anyone make sense to you? Progressive dog Jan 2014 #85

How about $85 BILLION per month to the bankers? cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #61

The bailout passed under Bush was not an Obama grand bargain Progressive dog Jan 2014 #62

Check your facts. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #66

Check yours, McCain suspended his campaign, Progressive dog Jan 2014 #68

So Bernanke's $85 BILLION per month to the bankers started under Bush? cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #69

The FED is an independent agency, so Obama again has nothing to do with it Progressive dog Jan 2014 #70

What unadulterated bullshit. nt woo me with science Jan 2014 #71

You are a proven BS expert, so you should know nt Progressive dog Jan 2014 #73

... woo me with science Jan 2014 #75

"Any more"...of which there have been NONE so far? regnaD kciN Jan 2014 #21

See post #18 directly above yours. last1standing Jan 2014 #22

Sequestration. Bush tax cut extension. The permanent tax cuts. The current budget. TheKentuckian Jan 2014 #23

Fuck yeah! If only we had the sense to elect Romney! 11 Bravo Jan 2014 #25

Fuck yeah! We should be happy to get shafted time after time! last1standing Jan 2014 #30

Short term gain (jobs) for long term pain (low corporate taxes) neverforget Jan 2014 #26

Which is exactly what 1.3 million unemployed found out last week. last1standing Jan 2014 #31

The last time ProSense Jan 2014 #48

Does the blatant propaganda never end? Seriously! last1standing Jan 2014 #49

Huh? What the hell is ProSense Jan 2014 #51

It's a good starting point Turbineguy Jan 2014 #28

the only positive news is that the batshit crazy wing of the House republicans... mike_c Jan 2014 #32

We've moved from voting for the lesser of evils to the greater of incompetents. last1standing Jan 2014 #34

You want politics more to your liking? Then start pushing people you like into local government, struggle4progress Jan 2014 #46

Why do people like yourself always smugly assume no one else is politically active? last1standing Jan 2014 #47

Because OPs like this keep asking for bandaids on severed arteries Recursion Jan 2014 #53

It's only "purile" to those who want the center-right policies Obama's pushing. last1standing Jan 2014 #54

This is such a disingenuous post, coming from a "centrist" such as yourself. nt Romulox Jan 2014 #63

I made no claims about whether you have ever made a phone call or canvassed struggle4progress Jan 2014 #55

Because if you were you wouldn't say these things treestar Jan 2014 #74

What a smug bit of crapola, where do YOU live? Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #67

That's a very odd reaction: you say years of organizing has paid off where you live -- but then struggle4progress Jan 2014 #78

Oh, spare us the Third Way schtick. nt woo me with science Jan 2014 #72

You sure told that poster. Hey, ProSense Jan 2014 #76

Um ... the Third Way folk have never been big on grassroots organizing struggle4progress Jan 2014 #79

Obama Grand Flaw - He Believes That Corporations Are Honest Negotiators And Worthy Stakeholders cantbeserious Jan 2014 #52

Kabuki Theater bobduca Jan 2014 #81

Well he has to represent SOMEONE, and since it isn't us it might as well be the wealthy. nt Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #56

It is the LOCAL, lower state Govs who scarf-up all the Federal billions. Sunlei Jan 2014 #58

They aren't bargains. JoeyT Jan 2014 #77

Thank you. We are bought and sold woo me with science Jan 2014 #80

kick woo me with science Jan 2014 #82

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The President is getting his FAST TRACK OF THE TPP! woo me with science Jan 2014 #89