General Discussion

cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)

52. Obama Grand Flaw - He Believes That Corporations Are Honest Negotiators And Worthy Stakeholders

Reply to last1standing (Original post)

Sun Jan 5, 2014, 10:16 PM

Jan 2014

Last edited Mon Jan 6, 2014, 02:21 AM - Edit history (1)

eom

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

89 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

We can't afford any more of Obama's Grand Bargains. [View all] last1standing Jan 2014 OP

there haven't been any.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #1

There's nothing "Grand" about bending over for repukes. L0oniX Jan 2014 #2

really more like grand buggery leftyohiolib Jan 2014 #3

Fact is, little is more unbecoming than bending over for repukes indepat Jan 2014 #4

I'm sure Obama will get some "Grand" speaking fees when he leaves office. last1standing Jan 2014 #5

Sounds like good ole boyism on steroids. Baitball Blogger Jan 2014 #6

It is truly indefensible 1000words Jan 2014 #7

Our President is a 3d term Clinton/Bush, imho. saidsimplesimon Jan 2014 #8

So I understand this. We give more tax cuts to…. Bonhomme Richard Jan 2014 #9

And that's Obama's starting point in negotiations. last1standing Jan 2014 #11

It could look like Ron Wyden's proposal ProSense Jan 2014 #13

Not likely since Wyden's plan doesn't mention infrastructure. last1standing Jan 2014 #14

Wyden's plan sucks. ProSense Jan 2014 #19

You and I agree on that. last1standing Jan 2014 #20

i like the idea of tripling the standard deduction questionseverything Jan 2014 #27

that isn't necessarily true dsc Jan 2014 #33

They're still subject to an increased tax rate. ProSense Jan 2014 #35

actually we don't even know that dsc Jan 2014 #36

Grand Bargain is an oxymoron. n/t winter is coming Jan 2014 #10

I don't know. It's certainly a grand bargain for the wealthy. last1standing Jan 2014 #15

let the ACA play out... quadrature Jan 2014 #12

Meh. DeSwiss Jan 2014 #16

When we have the first, let the rest of us know nt Progressive dog Jan 2014 #17

The first stimulus package, ACA, reduced tax hikes.... last1standing Jan 2014 #18

Those were "grand bargains"? ProSense Jan 2014 #24

Yes. Really. last1standing Jan 2014 #29

No, the ProSense Jan 2014 #37

I think most of us remember Obama saying he had to move right for the republicans. last1standing Jan 2014 #38

? ProSense Jan 2014 #39

Revisionism will only take you so fare. last1standing Jan 2014 #40

Remembering Lieberman doesn't require "revisionism." Another thing, ProSense Jan 2014 #41

No, but ignoring the rest of the story does. last1standing Jan 2014 #42

The 'Grand Bargain' in the ACA occurred during the negotiations that took place . . . markpkessinger Jan 2014 #43

Getting legislation ProSense Jan 2014 #44

You're not supposed to remember that. last1standing Jan 2014 #45

Remember what: That 17 Million Americans became eligible for Medicaid? ProSense Jan 2014 #50

No they didn't and ACA has nothing to do with a stimulus Progressive dog Jan 2014 #57

If you're only accepting "officially branded" grand bargains, you're right. last1standing Jan 2014 #59

If you call every bill a grand bargain because Progressive dog Jan 2014 #60

Lol! Yes, my "bizarre hatred" of being sold out time and time again is the problem. last1standing Jan 2014 #64

Your bizarre hate for Obama trumps your pretense of being a Democrat Progressive dog Jan 2014 #65

And now you're not even making sense. Are your feeling that hurt? last1standing Jan 2014 #84

Would anyone make sense to you? Progressive dog Jan 2014 #85

How about $85 BILLION per month to the bankers? cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #61

The bailout passed under Bush was not an Obama grand bargain Progressive dog Jan 2014 #62

Check your facts. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #66

Check yours, McCain suspended his campaign, Progressive dog Jan 2014 #68

So Bernanke's $85 BILLION per month to the bankers started under Bush? cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #69

The FED is an independent agency, so Obama again has nothing to do with it Progressive dog Jan 2014 #70

What unadulterated bullshit. nt woo me with science Jan 2014 #71

You are a proven BS expert, so you should know nt Progressive dog Jan 2014 #73

... woo me with science Jan 2014 #75

"Any more"...of which there have been NONE so far? regnaD kciN Jan 2014 #21

See post #18 directly above yours. last1standing Jan 2014 #22

Sequestration. Bush tax cut extension. The permanent tax cuts. The current budget. TheKentuckian Jan 2014 #23

Fuck yeah! If only we had the sense to elect Romney! 11 Bravo Jan 2014 #25

Fuck yeah! We should be happy to get shafted time after time! last1standing Jan 2014 #30

Short term gain (jobs) for long term pain (low corporate taxes) neverforget Jan 2014 #26

Which is exactly what 1.3 million unemployed found out last week. last1standing Jan 2014 #31

The last time ProSense Jan 2014 #48

Does the blatant propaganda never end? Seriously! last1standing Jan 2014 #49

Huh? What the hell is ProSense Jan 2014 #51

It's a good starting point Turbineguy Jan 2014 #28

the only positive news is that the batshit crazy wing of the House republicans... mike_c Jan 2014 #32

We've moved from voting for the lesser of evils to the greater of incompetents. last1standing Jan 2014 #34

You want politics more to your liking? Then start pushing people you like into local government, struggle4progress Jan 2014 #46

Why do people like yourself always smugly assume no one else is politically active? last1standing Jan 2014 #47

Because OPs like this keep asking for bandaids on severed arteries Recursion Jan 2014 #53

It's only "purile" to those who want the center-right policies Obama's pushing. last1standing Jan 2014 #54

This is such a disingenuous post, coming from a "centrist" such as yourself. nt Romulox Jan 2014 #63

I made no claims about whether you have ever made a phone call or canvassed struggle4progress Jan 2014 #55

Because if you were you wouldn't say these things treestar Jan 2014 #74

What a smug bit of crapola, where do YOU live? Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #67

That's a very odd reaction: you say years of organizing has paid off where you live -- but then struggle4progress Jan 2014 #78

Oh, spare us the Third Way schtick. nt woo me with science Jan 2014 #72

You sure told that poster. Hey, ProSense Jan 2014 #76

Um ... the Third Way folk have never been big on grassroots organizing struggle4progress Jan 2014 #79

Obama Grand Flaw - He Believes That Corporations Are Honest Negotiators And Worthy Stakeholders cantbeserious Jan 2014 #52

Kabuki Theater bobduca Jan 2014 #81

Well he has to represent SOMEONE, and since it isn't us it might as well be the wealthy. nt Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #56

It is the LOCAL, lower state Govs who scarf-up all the Federal billions. Sunlei Jan 2014 #58

They aren't bargains. JoeyT Jan 2014 #77

Thank you. We are bought and sold woo me with science Jan 2014 #80

kick woo me with science Jan 2014 #82

kick woo me with science Jan 2014 #83

kick woo me with science Jan 2014 #86

kick woo me with science Jan 2014 #87

kick woo me with science Jan 2014 #88

The President is getting his FAST TRACK OF THE TPP! woo me with science Jan 2014 #89