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In reply to the discussion: Fine. I'll say it. I won't vote for HIllary if she's the nominee. [View all]Last edited Tue Jun 10, 2014, 04:15 PM - Edit history (1)
I feel your pain but I will probably concede and vote for her in the General election though certainly NOT in the primaries. Only because the likely alternative outcome is so regressive and in my view outright dangerous.
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yes, only on the new DU are actual Democrats trolls or swarms... imagine this;
dionysus
Jun 2014
#406
she is very similar to Howard Dean which is why he is supporting her and you had no problem
JI7
Jun 2014
#2
Yes, but it is Hillary that they say will probably be the next president
question everything
Jun 2014
#117
Based on what? She sure has been doing a good imitation of a wannabe nominee since 2007.
merrily
Jun 2014
#151
Her recent statement, about being broke when they left the Oval Office
ChairmanAgnostic
Jun 2014
#394
And don't forget that Hillary's so-called "debt" was being fully financed by her buddies on Wall Street w/ their generous contributions to the Clinton's legal defense fund. . .
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jun 2014
#401
i still have my Dean Campaign sign. i was on vacation in Maine, it was after the primaries were
dionysus
Jun 2014
#352
She isnt Howard Dean. She doesnt support the 99%. She is in the pocket of Wall Street.
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#265
I love that quote, and I agree with the OP. I will focus on Congress if Hillary is the nominee. Now
sabrina 1
Jun 2014
#86
Tierra's post consisted solely of a quote from John Quincy Adams, so your liberal bashing is
merrily
Jun 2014
#158
If she is the nominee and you won't vote for her don't let the door hit your ass on the way out
lostincalifornia
Jun 2014
#10
On the way out of what? The country? She's already said she'd gladly leave DU "for the duration."
merrily
Jun 2014
#161
I'm guessing Cali knows that The duration" is a WW II term meaning "however long it takes."
merrily
Jun 2014
#399
Obviously I am simply stating a perspective based on the OPs view that the OP will NOT vote for
lostincalifornia
Jun 2014
#400
Again, I doubt party leaders want someone out of the party simply because he or she is unable
merrily
Jun 2014
#404
no temper at all. The OP won't vote for the Democratic nominee should consider moving to another
lostincalifornia
Jun 2014
#367
I doubt it. This is how many felt in 2000 and voted for Nader, giving us Bush
question everything
Jun 2014
#119
Isnt that extortion? If you dont want a Republican in the WH, dont nominate H. Clinton-Sachs.
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#224
I'm not totally convinced anybody else on our team has the clout to win it. I think she can win.
calimary
Jun 2014
#267
That's the thinking that's got us where we are today. At some point we must stand up
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#269
I'm convinced that Clinton can't win. The right will show up to vote against her in droves ....
Scuba
Jun 2014
#310
"If I don't get Bernie, I'll defacto vote for the other party." Isn't that extortion?
kjones
Jun 2015
#417
I hope you aren't implying that I said that or believe that. Can you spell S T R A W M A N ?
rhett o rick
Jun 2015
#418
Implying? Hell, you came right out and called the similar extortion for Hilary supporters et al.
kjones
Jun 2015
#419
You implied that I said the following: ""If I don't get Bernie, I'll defacto vote for the other
rhett o rick
Jun 2015
#420
Do you see a distinction between Democratic Principals and the Democratic Party? nt
el_bryanto
Jun 2014
#27
I dont think this forum is called Democratic Principles Underground is it?
VanillaRhapsody
Jun 2014
#66
Not to put to fine a point on it but it's not called Democratic Party Underground either. nt
el_bryanto
Jun 2014
#68
It says something about supporting Democrats too clue one.its in the name...its not Progressive U.
VanillaRhapsody
Jun 2014
#321
Democratic principles are the principles of the Democratic party, by definition.
Donald Ian Rankin
Jun 2014
#126
I'm afraid you'll have to elaborate on that - it looks like a non-sequitur to me. N.T.
Donald Ian Rankin
Jun 2014
#362
If Icky Ricky Santorum declares himself a Democrat and we adopt his hateful policies as our own ....
Scuba
Jun 2014
#366
She is not a friend of the 99%. Why would you back her? She is Wall Street all the way.
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#225
"Are you one that believes in trickle-down?" Excellent mind reader you are.
NCTraveler
Jun 2014
#309
The bigger loss in 2010 was the gubernatorial and state legislative elections because
StevieM
Jun 2014
#282
That is true, but that won't happen again, most people know the realities
lostincalifornia
Jun 2014
#20
I vote for Democrats also. But I refuse to vote for DINO's. I refuse to vote for Democrats that
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#226
I want to let the DLC'ers know right now that if you stick with Clinton-Sachs, the apple of
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#251
If you dont want a Rand Paul victory, then dont nominate Clinton-Sachs. It's on you. nm
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#253
So you're saying that supporting more and more conservative Dems will move the party to the left????
Doctor_J
Jun 2014
#101
The oligarchs are doing the manipulating and most just go along. There are two parties both
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#255
Our only hope is to get a populist candidate and avoid the Wall Street hacks. nm
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#335
How many of those were Democrats? If they voted for McCain over Obama knowing that McCain is
lostincalifornia
Jun 2014
#44
I was a Hillary supporter in 2008, but I was in line to early vote for Obama.
hamsterjill
Jun 2014
#85
That's a bit of a canard. Has cali ever suggested a belief in that right wing lie that
el_bryanto
Jun 2014
#43
I'm sorry but Hillary is better than ANYONE the GOP has to offer. She may be conservative
OregonBlue
Jun 2014
#48
I will vote for Hillary if she's the nominee. Because I'm a Democrat and I vote
Louisiana1976
Jun 2014
#51
wow. Since when does changing one's mind on something like this, undermine credibility
cali
Jun 2014
#198
hate to break this to you but I have a lot of credibility with a lot of people here
cali
Jun 2014
#284
+1 cali, you have way more credibility than those who put party over principles.
Scuba
Jun 2014
#316
"Hat tip to Creek Dog for killing this thread... " How sad that it's a goal to "kill threads" in
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#318
Only with the help of party hacks including organization and mountains of money from
TheKentuckian
Jun 2014
#108
I won't vote for Hillary = I'd rather have a Republican President like Cruz, Paul or another Bush...
TeamPooka
Jun 2014
#75
What if a teaparty or independent like Rand Paul is elected, they steal the senate and
randys1
Jun 2014
#84
For someone of such strident and strong opinions, you sure need a lot of validation
CreekDog
Jun 2014
#89
Yes you would love that. Conservatism uber alas. The hell with the poor and unemployed.
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#259
Seriously? You see no difference between Hillary Clinton and Margaret Thatcher?
StevieM
Jun 2014
#283
I didn't like Nader. I didn't vote for him. I never supported him in any way shape or form
cali
Jun 2014
#201
Cali, I never thought for an instant you would vote for Hillary Clinton
The Second Stone
Jun 2014
#147
I'm sitting here, staring at my screen in utter disbelief. This cannot be happening!
Metric System
Jun 2014
#153
Didn't you recently brag how you were on food stamps and how great they were?
RiffRandell
Jun 2014
#157
the absolute worst Democrat is far better than the absolute best Republican...
NRaleighLiberal
Jun 2014
#162
We need to make sure we DON'T have to make a choice between that woman & the GOP Theocrat. Now is
blkmusclmachine
Jun 2014
#170
that's like saying "Iraq-9/11...how soon you forget" "Germany-Pearl Harbor...how soon you forget"
MisterP
Jun 2014
#274
Forgot I wrote this. Went off to putter in the garden (anyone ever grown celery root?)
cali
Jun 2014
#182
the supreme court is more important than your whinny childish tantrum. everyone fighting to improve
leftyohiolib
Jun 2014
#184
Ok, but help me out here. When she bowed down to George Bush and violated her duty to
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#257
I have a hunch you aint seen nothing yet. In 2007 we had hope for change, now we only
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#258
I don't know what I'd do if I lived in FL- but then again, no offense, living there is
cali
Jun 2014
#211
And you'll be one of the ones I bitch about if we deal with yet another Republican in the WH.
moriah
Jun 2014
#215
Moriah, I live in Vermont (as you know). My vote will make no difference to the outcome.
cali
Jun 2014
#217
So because Arkansas has a snowball's chance of going blue even if Hillary'd gotten the nod...
moriah
Jun 2014
#218
If you want the support of the left, dont nominate Wall Street's baby, H. Clinton-Sachs. It's up to
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#264
No you will dance in the street as Wall Street-Clinton wins. You dont give a crap about the poor or
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#268
fine. i'll say it. you betcha i will vote for hillary or any democrat. i want supreme court.
seabeyond
Jun 2014
#231
baloney, codswallop, shrill rhetoric. And I live in Vermont? Wanna guess how VT will go?
cali
Jun 2014
#285
You are here encouraging others to refuse to vote for the Democratic nominee
BainsBane
Jun 2014
#290
I am not a republican. If you believe that, go to admin and tell them I should be booted
cali
Jun 2014
#297
Refusing to vote for a Democratic nominee makes you identical to a Republican
MohRokTah
Jun 2014
#305
All purists on the LEft accomplish are moving the party further to the right.
MohRokTah
Jun 2014
#347
Ummm...sure. See, we are playing 12-D chess, while you're playing checkers, and
Doctor_J
Jun 2014
#349
love to break this to you: leaving for the duration is not synonymous with STFU. duh.
cali
Jun 2014
#317
Since we are asking, would you and others like you refrain from ad hominem attacks and ridicule
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#319
So is that a "no" you wont be discussing Clinton's stands on issues? And I am surprised that you
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#333
And you prove my point. I asked if the Clinton supporters would be willing to discuss issues.
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#361
so instead of more negative Hillary posts, will we start seeing pro-candidate posts?
Blue_Adept
Jun 2014
#304
I notice that the Clinton-Sachs supporters never provide positive arguments about her
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#323
I fail to see how she differs significantly from President Obama on policy issues
Freddie Stubbs
Jun 2014
#328
Yes Freddie and that's the point. Vote for Clinton-Sachs and 8 more years
rhett o rick
Jun 2014
#336
because there's not a dime's worth of difference between Al Gore and George Bush. remember?
greenman3610
Jun 2014
#330
Then I'm holding you personally responsible for either making sure a better candidate is nominated,
Zorra
Jun 2014
#373
OK, when you wrote "I'm holding you personally responsible" I assumed you were directly
totodeinhere
Jun 2014
#389
I don't trust the Clintons or ANY of their paid hacks. nt. Any other Dem please. nt
clarice
Jun 2014
#374
So if we have a president named Cruz, or Paul or Perry, you'll accept partial responsibility?
Zen Democrat
Jun 2014
#379