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Diclotican

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58. Calista241
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 12:13 PM
Jun 2014

Calista241

I know - Hitler did to many critical errors under the war to really count - but the decision about bombing british city's is up there at one of the worst blunders Hitler did made - in fact the bombing of London and all the other british city's happened by accident - and Hitler was so impressed by the result - that he deiced that Luftwaffe was to use its power not to hunt down RAF - but to bomb the Britt's into submission by destroying their city's - after all the Terror bombing of Warsaw Rotterdam and countless other terror bombings of other european city's had worked well for the germans before in the war.... The respite the RAF got when Hitler deiced to bomb the city's instead of the airfield, bases and airplanes of the Royal Air Force in 1940-41 was one of the main cases why RAF was able to build up its strength - and to continue the war - even german generals have told so - after the war was over... Even if it was horrible for the people of UK, and most of them had to be rebuild after the war - and good know how many who died in the terror bombing - the british was kind of as they always are when devastating happening on their Iceland's - more stubborn than ever - and even a bombed out shop - just made the owner a way to use the british form of understatement to say his shop was more open than usual - against that form of understatement - even Prussian Germany could never won the war I guess....

The delaying of the invasion of Russia in 1941, who should have started in April I believe - and who started in June 1941 was one that should hunt Germany, the generals and Hitler for as long as the war was - specially as the italian dictator Mussolini had messed up his war plot in Yugoslavia and Greece - and in fact was on its way to be defeated by greece forces who was doing its best to beat the crap out of the italian counterpart - Hitler was afraid - and understood the necessarily of making sure Balkan was silent - and put a large bulk of his forces into that front - devastated Yugoslavia and Greece - but had to put a lot of its forces on the ground - to make sure it was not to end up in enemy hands again - and he lost his "golden lock" when it came to war against Russia... Even if Werhmact - Waffen SS and Luftwaffe was to almost win the war by August 1941 - as Stalins commands about total control over the armies was more devastating than the war against the germans itself - it was not until Stalin at least deiced he better trust his generals who had shown some initiative - defending against the germans to do their job - without him interfering - and also to make sure NKVDs armies of "political advisor's" to the armies was ordered to help the generals rather han mess up their policies - that Russia had any chance to do anything against the invading Germany - who was close to beat Stalin on his own turf - if the generals had been able to do their things instead of Hitler messing up always - it might have ended a whole different way all togheter...


Not to say Normandy - who was a challenge to say it least - and it could have ended a whole different way from the allied forces that day - if Rommel had getting his ways with the reserves - who was strong enough to keep its own - when first inland from the beaches of Normandie... Hitler believed - in his ways he was the smartest generals alive - that it would be madness to concentrate it on Normandy - all the time they had no harbors - no availability to keep the military forces coming ashore - The inventions of floating harbors kind of was floating away from Hitler all together - and he was not able to grasp that the war of 1944 was a whole different war than it was in 1914 - when trench warfare was the best to offer... And he was not able to grasp that war was something different in 1944 than in the last word war.. And he could work himself up to a frenzy talking about what he had experienced in World War one - even long until the early evening on the morning - the poor generals had to listen to him, even if they was dead tired and just wanted to get to bed - but no one dared telling Hitler that it was late - and they had some important things to do later on that day...

Diclotican

WTF ...10 [View all] pbmus Jun 2014 OP
K&R Fantastic Graphic, thanks for posting! nt tea and oranges Jun 2014 #1
Enthusiastically recommended. hunter Jun 2014 #2
Thank You For Sharing cantbeserious Jun 2014 #3
Fantastic! Leith Jun 2014 #4
Yup. Agony Jun 2014 #5
Looks interesting. I am bookmarking it for later. Thanks. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #40
You need an educated citizenry for it to be enough. EEO Jun 2014 #6
True. Louisiana1976 Jun 2014 #26
Not only undereducated… tex-wyo-dem Jun 2014 #42
Bread and circuses... bullsnarfle Jun 2014 #49
Just perfect! Can't add anything to it. DippyDem Jun 2014 #7
+1!!! To quote Metallica, "Sad but true!" Dustlawyer Jun 2014 #8
Well said. Louisiana1976 Jun 2014 #27
Well done. Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #9
It's the FOUND generation that gives us hope.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #10
Good post. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #39
Here is my issue with this...... Logical Jun 2014 #11
Education is the first step on the ladder to higher wages ... pbmus Jun 2014 #12
My point is that...... Logical Jun 2014 #14
Not everyone wants to get a Masters degree and you are right, we need livable wages ... pbmus Jun 2014 #15
Agreed. Just getting a degree from a degree factory LittleBlue Jun 2014 #28
A complementary observation is... reACTIONary Jun 2014 #31
K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Jun 2014 #13
It's got mine. A great graphic about the dysfunction of the American exceptionalism erronis Jun 2014 #25
It was true generation ago that having those high level degees would get you truedelphi Jun 2014 #35
Does someone really need "Understanding Japanese haiku" JDPriestly Jun 2014 #38
I am quite sure that there are lots of people who took the required Liberal Arts truedelphi Jun 2014 #41
The Scandinavians were not complaining about high US military spending 70 years ago (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2014 #16
I understand your feelings about our military industrial complex ... pbmus Jun 2014 #17
Do you know the history of WWII? JDPriestly Jun 2014 #37
JDPriestly Diclotican Jun 2014 #56
Hitler and the Germans made several critical errors Calista241 Jun 2014 #57
Calista241 Diclotican Jun 2014 #58
Nye Bevan Diclotican Jun 2014 #44
Well said! n/t Spazito Jun 2014 #50
k&r... spanone Jun 2014 #18
Investment to too many people Iwillnevergiveup Jun 2014 #19
K&R ReRe Jun 2014 #20
knr alfredo Jun 2014 #21
Exactly what we need more of in GD! n/t hootinholler Jun 2014 #22
Scares me to death. nolabear Jun 2014 #23
This poster answers its own questions. drm604 Jun 2014 #24
Excellent post. K&R Louisiana1976 Jun 2014 #29
wtf, if you love what you have on the other side of the pond, saidsimplesimon Jun 2014 #30
To the pieman ... pbmus Jun 2014 #32
Good to know, "FYI: Occupy is everywhere", whoku? saidsimplesimon Jun 2014 #33
I am excellent at WWF and whoku is not a word...nt pbmus Jun 2014 #34
K&R. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #36
Outstanding!!! PatrickforO Jun 2014 #43
You hear that Democratic candidates? Free public college Android3.14 Jun 2014 #45
Before 1966 most colleges were free in CA, Reagan changed that ... nt pbmus Jun 2014 #63
Nothing is going to change until... Hotler Jun 2014 #46
If you mean waving garish signs and doing dances ballyhoo Jun 2014 #52
Of course that does result in higher taxes? SmittynMo Jun 2014 #47
Good question. davidthegnome Jun 2014 #53
Brilliantly expressed k/r 10000K SmittynMo Jun 2014 #60
All those student loans could get filed in a BK nolabels Jun 2014 #54
Kick,kick,kicked&Recommended! butterfly77 Jun 2014 #48
K&R n/t lordsummerisle Jun 2014 #51
"The grabbing hands grab all they can" raouldukelives Jun 2014 #55
What's the source for "more money for prisons than education?" Damansarajaya Jun 2014 #59
I believe the quote meant higher education ... not primary ed ...nt pbmus Jun 2014 #62
Either way, it doesn't add up-- Damansarajaya Jun 2014 #64
k&r for the truth, however depressing it may be. n/t Laelth Jun 2014 #61
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