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60. How is this at all similar to letting an ethics hearing proceed?

Sat Jan 6, 2018, 08:30 PM

Jan 2018

Last edited Sun Jan 7, 2018, 03:04 AM - Edit history (1)

No one is saying that Democrats should throw-out core principles: exactly the opposite. It was Schumer, Gillibrand, Harris, and other conservadems who threw out the principles of due process, fairness, and sticking together as a party who got us into this mess. And many of us are saying they were wrong to do so.

Also, Schumer and Gillibrand, as reliable Wall Street pawns (almost inevitable for a NY Senator, but can't we hope for better?), are the main Democrats catering to the whims of billionaires here.

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A Major Democratic Donor Is Reconsidering Support For Senators Who Pushed For Al Franken's... [View all] demmiblue Jan 2018 OP

Interesting. truthisfreedom Jan 2018 #1

I agree with this up to a point. groundloop Jan 2018 #2

Yeah. I agree to a point - but these folks KPN Jan 2018 #7

My position dragonlady Jan 2018 #9

I don't think anybody here would feel warm and fuzzy about letting those seats go to enough Jan 2018 #12

What if a repuke gets Franken's seat now? NickB79 Jan 2018 #24

...and Tim Pawlenty was quite popular up there. regnaD kciN Jan 2018 #53

A lot of the Iron Range (northern MN) voted Trump NickB79 Jan 2018 #62

Minnesota barely made it into the blue column in 2016 dflprincess Jan 2018 #68

These Backstabbers were willing to risk wellst0nev0ter Jan 2018 #34

This only hurts us...I have to wonder if fake progressives are doing this... Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #42

The party has to stop pissing people off.. CentralMass Jan 2018 #76

Really? I disagree. We support the party and Democrats here. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #89

I'm with you on this. pressbox69 Jan 2018 #73

Some who celebrated Franken's departure may regret it left-of-center2012 Jan 2018 #3

Nobody celebrated his departure. brooklynite Jan 2018 #71

Those who did are now being quiet left-of-center2012 Jan 2018 #75

Name them brooklynite Jan 2018 #83

Good! hurple Jan 2018 #4

Why? Do you favor the Republicans? Because they would win if people do as you suggest. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #43

This is an incredibly stupid move. Bleacher Creature Jan 2018 #5

This not the stupid move... LakeArenal Jan 2018 #6

Let's hope that the consequences don't include allowing the GOP to keep the House and the Senate... Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #44

Do you have any proof of your statement? sheshe2 Jan 2018 #55

Good offense. LakeArenal Jan 2018 #65

So, you have no link. sheshe2 Jan 2018 #66

Why not a link? That is a reasonable request. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #90

My idiot moderate dem senator was happy to pile on UpInArms Jan 2018 #8

Send her another one... awesomerwb1 Jan 2018 #26

Saying that is like saying Trump was so bad KPN Jan 2018 #10

Here in Minnesota this really hurt the Democratic Party. Scruffy1 Jan 2018 #11

the fine people of Minnesota know when something is up Skittles Jan 2018 #20

60% of Minnesotans wanted ethics investigation wellst0nev0ter Jan 2018 #35

DAMN STRAIGHT Skittles Jan 2018 #38

Nobody "fine" votes for that harridan Bachmann wolfie001 Jan 2018 #67

This is absolutely what happened. earthshine Jan 2018 #37

And this may backfire big-time... regnaD kciN Jan 2018 #52

yea it makes it hard to spend your time and energy to support a great democratic candidate questionseverything Jan 2018 #40

I hope Al runs for Governor. roamer65 Jan 2018 #45

Does not the same argument apply to those who called for Franken's ousting? Major Nikon Jan 2018 #13

Maybe. I just don't care. Bleacher Creature Jan 2018 #17

Seems like the donor has those same goals in mind Major Nikon Jan 2018 #21

The Stupid Move Was Railroading a Respected Democratic FIGHTER for Cynical, Selfish Reasons Upward Jan 2018 #15

"This would be like the fire department refusing to put out a fire." Say what? Demit Jan 2018 #31

Not even in the same ballpark with the idiot move that made this possible.... workinclasszero Jan 2018 #33

She looks like a Droid. democratisphere Jan 2018 #58

"Crazy Eyes" Bachmann workinclasszero Jan 2018 #84

I agree 100%. Tarheel_Dem Jan 2018 #41

The stupid move was railroading one of the strongest, most genuine liberal voices out of the Senate lostnfound Jan 2018 #80

Franken was railroaded. Lonestarblue Jan 2018 #14

it is hard for anyone with critical thinking skills to overlook Skittles Jan 2018 #19

Agree. MBS Jan 2018 #36

Yes, she's another "party of one" JNelson6563 Jan 2018 #63

I doubt that Al will run for governor dflprincess Jan 2018 #70

It's up to her to decide who to like and trust. dalton99a Jan 2018 #16

Great. We Can Cater to Whims of Billionairs, Too? TomCADem Jan 2018 #18

NOT the point at all, here. maddiemom Jan 2018 #28

How is this at all similar to letting an ethics hearing proceed? appal_jack Jan 2018 #60

Great way to destroy the Dem Party SCantiGOP Jan 2018 #22

No, the railroading Senators did this to their own party. lark Jan 2018 #25

Right on both points. Bleacher Creature Jan 2018 #46

1 more senate seat to defend and less money to do it with. Exultant Democracy Jan 2018 #23

Gillibrand should be primaried. nm mr_liberal Jan 2018 #27

Do you live in NY? DeadLetterOffice Jan 2018 #69

Well she was willing to give Weiner a pass when he was running for Mayor of NYC CentralMass Jan 2018 #77

Absolutely disndat Jan 2018 #85

Let them get those "small" donations..... Historic NY Jan 2018 #29

She can spend her money where she likes More_Cowbell Jan 2018 #30

For all you folks chiming in...prepare to lose social security, medicare and lots of progressive Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #56

I would never vote for Gillibrand. I was not impressed with her before No Vested Interest Jan 2018 #32

How tribalism overrules progressive tenets like believing women TomCADem Jan 2018 #39

Four anonymous complaints + 2 Repub partisans + a psycho? appal_jack Jan 2018 #61

So, you'd vote for a fucking Rethug in the general? paleotn Jan 2018 #49

Endorsed by Bill and Hillary Clinton, who she has also thrown under the bus. democratisphere Jan 2018 #59

"Never" eh? Gillibrand & Schumer are my senators... WePurrsevere Jan 2018 #78

Glad you're happy with Gillibrand representing you. Please keep her as NY's No Vested Interest Jan 2018 #87

S.T. Buell disndat Jan 2018 #88

Gillibrand disndat Jan 2018 #86

"Unfair" and "Cavalier" DFW Jan 2018 #47

STOP IT!!!... paleotn Jan 2018 #48

A perfect response to Gillibrand et al. demmiblue Jan 2018 #50

Says the Disbelieve Women Wing of the Party TomCADem Jan 2018 #54

Lets rub as much salt as possible into this wound, at least until Nov 6. Sneederbunk Jan 2018 #51

If this point isn't hammered home repeatedly, what's to stop similarly stupid OnDoutside Jan 2018 #57

+1 That is also my thought . What or who will it be next time ? I'm not forgetting how it went down lunasun Jan 2018 #82

If it takes threat of big donors to force Senators to explain, provide more info, apologize stuffmatters Jan 2018 #64

Excellent! +1,000 (nt) scarletwoman Jan 2018 #72

Her money not my money dembotoz Jan 2018 #74

good stonecutter357 Jan 2018 #79

Even amongst Democrats, money is necessary to run elections Progressive dog Jan 2018 #81

Consequences. She's not the only one. nt Kimchijeon Jan 2018 #91

Railroaded by Corporate Dem's for political gain. harun Jan 2018 #92