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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
7. Seemed odd that armoured vehicles could be "captured"
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 06:56 AM
Apr 2014

See 11.23am BST

It looks like the Ukranian attempt to reassert control in Slavyansk has gone awry, with some troops going over to the pro-Russian side. This from Reuters.

At least three armoured personal carriers that were driven in to the eastern Ukrainian city of Slavyansk had been under the control of Ukrainian armed forces earlier on Wednesday, Reuters photographers said.

A soldier manning one of the troop carriers now under the control of pro-Russian separatists identified himself to Reuters as being a member of Ukraine's 25th paratrooper division from Dnipropetrovsk.

He said: "All the soldiers and the officers are here. We are all boys who won't shoot our own people."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/16/ukraine-on-the-brink-live-blog-16-april



RIA Novosti is also reporting they were handed over.

Personnel From 6 Armored Transport Vehicles Sent To Kramatorsk In East Ukraine Switch To Side Of Pro-Federalist Activists.

SLAVIANSK, April 16 (RIA Novosti) - The personnel of six armored transport vehicles sent to the eastern Ukrainian city of Kramatorsk have switched sides and have joined the pro-federalist activists, witnesses told RIA Novosti on Wednesday.

"We found them at a square near the railway station. A group of women surrounded them, we started telling them we were peaceful residents who are just fighting for their rights and that there are no terrorists here," the witness said, adding: "They won't shoot us."

"The main armored transport vehicle had a Russian flag on it and they left together with our [protesters] towards Slaviansk," the witness said.

The number of personnel from the transport vehicles was not specified.

http://en.ria.ru/world/20140416/189240520/Personnel-From-6-Armored-Transport-Vehicles-Sent-To-Kramatorsk.html

"100 heavily armed men" joshcryer Apr 2014 #1
Yes, Maidan protesters were concerned with public square Bad Thoughts Apr 2014 #12
Where all this stuff is: Kramatorsk Savyansk, Donetsk. progree Apr 2014 #2
Close up map here dipsydoodle Apr 2014 #6
Ukraine has no chance to defend itself against the russians. darkangel218 Apr 2014 #3
Assuming the news to be accurate dipsydoodle Apr 2014 #4
Like i said. The problem in Ulraine is that the enemies come from within the borders. darkangel218 Apr 2014 #5
Ukraine was doing fine maintaining her "independence" . . . another_liberal Apr 2014 #11
"We" didn't decide anything, the Ukrainians themselves did. Cookies or not. n/t EX500rider Apr 2014 #30
Correction: This is civil war. Unless folks believe that Russia sent in a million operatives. newthinking Apr 2014 #22
Seemed odd that armoured vehicles could be "captured" dipsydoodle Apr 2014 #7
There seems to be a continuing problem with refusal of orders. bemildred Apr 2014 #15
Surprise surprise eh? Catherina Apr 2014 #17
Yeah, a big shock. Who knew this could happen? bemildred Apr 2014 #18
Pots and kettles doesn't even begin to describe this lol Catherina Apr 2014 #23
There are also reports that the crews of the APCs defected to the protesters. another_liberal Apr 2014 #8
Guardian reporting the same : see reply #7 dipsydoodle Apr 2014 #9
Thanks. another_liberal Apr 2014 #10
How the hell did this happen? blackspade Apr 2014 #13
Up until very recently, Russians could go in and out of Ukraine w/o a visa. Benton D Struckcheon Apr 2014 #14
Looks like BMD-1 or BMD-2 and the "Tank" is a 120mm Self propelled Mortar happyslug Apr 2014 #16
Allow me to emphasize this part: bemildred Apr 2014 #19
That is my impression of this action happyslug Apr 2014 #20
I agree. nt bemildred Apr 2014 #21
I like the way you reason. That's precisely what's going on Catherina Apr 2014 #24
Now I have to view the actual vehicles's number happyslug Apr 2014 #25
+1 Someone does NOT trust the Ukrainian Army, Catherina Apr 2014 #27
Not necessarily defections but stopped vehicles Catherina Apr 2014 #28
Thanks for your link about that new Ukranian National Guard Catherina Apr 2014 #29
Video interview with Ukranian soldier. "We won't shoot... just want to go home" Catherina Apr 2014 #26
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