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94. Politifact analyzed statements of all the candidates for truthfulness,

Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:49 PM

Mar 2016

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and Hillary was the most truthful of the list, though Bernie was a close second. Both of them rated as far more truthful than any of the Repubs.

It's a GOP smear that Hillary is less honest than other politicians. She's, once again, being held to a different standard.

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Please Don't Tell Me Bill Clinton Really Just Said '...The Awful Legacy of the Last Eight Years' [View all] tomm2thumbs Mar 2016 OP

I do believe he has lost it. LiberalArkie Mar 2016 #1

Yes, something's not quite right RufusTFirefly Mar 2016 #5

I feel sorry for the three of you. You didn't do your homework ffr Mar 2016 #59

good point. Thanks. n/t indivisibleman Mar 2016 #138

...and yet they are running with partial info for all they are worth, aren't they? Hekate Mar 2016 #176

this coming from someone who believes we should have a poll tax passiveporcupine May 2016 #207

Here's the canned response EdwardBernays Mar 2016 #2

Well said. senz Mar 2016 #18

Bill on Obama: A few years ago he'd have been getting us coffee. Divernan Mar 2016 #33

That is the true response. That is what he was talking about, in the full context. pnwmom Mar 2016 #68

Not today, unless you're taking something other than his message of inclusion ffr Mar 2016 #118

I think you misunderstood me. pnwmom Mar 2016 #125

Perfect. Bill needs 840high Mar 2016 #87

still no poof of quid pro quo-still waiting redstateblues Mar 2016 #98

Ouch! anothergreenbus Mar 2016 #116

Very fitting picture there. eom Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #188

Maybe he does better with the bull horn. jalan48 Mar 2016 #3

Are bullhorns phallic symbols like red corvettes? Divernan Mar 2016 #36

I'm sure Bill would be "up" for giving a speech to Pfizer (for a fee of course). jalan48 Mar 2016 #54

he says he meant the GOP--but Jeez LOUISE you don't put that on your notecards MisterP Mar 2016 #4

So today she runs to the right of Trump, and he takes a sledge hammer Kittycat Mar 2016 #6

dog whistle to a certain segment of voters perhaps? tomm2thumbs Mar 2016 #7

+10 Duppers Mar 2016 #78

the year before my Dad died MFM008 Mar 2016 #8

My grandmother had the same thing but lingered for several years. blackspade Mar 2016 #16

thanks MFM008 Mar 2016 #27

He's had his weirdnesses since his surgeries. peace13 Mar 2016 #34

"Bill Clinton’s Madness: A Consequence of Heart-Bypass Surgery Brain Damage?" Divernan Mar 2016 #49

My neighbor had bypass surgery. peace13 Mar 2016 #75

Cross clamp time pugetres Mar 2016 #182

I thought it very odd that he would go on a bullhorn outside a voting location. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #136

No offense to your dad, but you might have been duped ffr Mar 2016 #108

I'm sorry you had to see a loved one suffer so much. And suffered yourself too. Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #174

My oh my. Would like to see that come up in a debate. debunction.junction Mar 2016 #9

With "friends" like these, who needs enemies. sarge43 Mar 2016 #10

Please post the full video itsrobert Mar 2016 #11

Here. OP's post is a hit piece on a democrat ffr Mar 2016 #65

So did I hear it right monicaangela Mar 2016 #86

Thanks. For gods' sake. nt Hekate Mar 2016 #177

He forgot to mention the eight years before that Jack Rabbit Mar 2016 #12

No, he mentioned that too. ffr Mar 2016 #67

Thank you for posting that Jack Rabbit Mar 2016 #193

um, wasn't Hillary part of that awful legacy for 4 yrs? nt TheDormouse Mar 2016 #13

You mean as SOS? Brother_Love Mar 2016 #20

yes, as Secretary of State nt TheDormouse Mar 2016 #23

I guess Obama's administration wasn't neo-liberal enough for Clinton's taste. Baitball Blogger Mar 2016 #14

WTF? blackspade Mar 2016 #15

Nope. You've been duped by OP. ffr Mar 2016 #64

Yup. And she wraps herself in Obama, as do her followers, senz Mar 2016 #17

This just worms in my gut. Mira Mar 2016 #19

They're past the states where the Black vote matters to them shawn703 Mar 2016 #21

lol exactly! TheDormouse Mar 2016 #24

I really, really, really don't want him in the White House again The Blue Flower Mar 2016 #22

I'm really much more worried about the male interns ... DrBulldog Mar 2016 #28

The man is senile ... and soon to follow will be Hillary. DrBulldog Mar 2016 #25

Check out TYT... Thespian2 Mar 2016 #26

Don't see a lot of Hillary supporters in here defending that statement. revbones Mar 2016 #29

Nope, just an out of context hit piece for those who are looking for something ffr Mar 2016 #38

Doesn't change that he said it. revbones Mar 2016 #43

I cannot comment on who is who on here as far as supporters ffr Mar 2016 #179

I listened to it...no out of context excuse explains it noiretextatique Mar 2016 #200

You wonder why you're not going to get the transcripts too aren't you? upaloopa Mar 2016 #51

If you want an education in out of context revbones Mar 2016 #55

Don't buy into negative messages ffr Mar 2016 #80

I disagree. revbones Mar 2016 #90

No thank you then for not supporting the democratic candidate ffr Mar 2016 #93

If by "excellent" revbones Mar 2016 #95

Which candidate are you talking about? ffr Mar 2016 #102

I don't know... chwaliszewski Mar 2016 #122

You have my respect. revbones Mar 2016 #123

Most Hillary supporters have been driven away from DU. But any honest person pnwmom Mar 2016 #71

You read your context one way, others see it a different way. revbones Mar 2016 #77

Politifact analyzed statements of all the candidates for truthfulness, pnwmom Mar 2016 #94

Yeah, and looking at the "mostly true" vs "true" and judgements, there's no subjectivity right? nt revbones Mar 2016 #97

Hardly Scientific billhicks76 Mar 2016 #167

That was a mistake. Thanks, I've corrected it. pnwmom Mar 2016 #168

Many More Bernie Supporters Have billhicks76 Mar 2016 #134

Right. And African American voters are so much more ignorant than pnwmom Mar 2016 #137

Playing The Race Card billhicks76 Mar 2016 #159

African Americans are Hillary's biggest supporters. So when you criticize her supporters pnwmom Mar 2016 #161

Her Words Don't Match Her Actions billhicks76 Mar 2016 #162

You're not telling the truth. She doesn't take cash from the private prison industry. pnwmom Mar 2016 #163

I Would Love To See That billhicks76 Mar 2016 #164

Do you know how to google? pnwmom Mar 2016 #166

Wow...Stunning billhicks76 Mar 2016 #169

she still takes their money ,just thru super pacs questionseverything Mar 2016 #192

Bernie benefits from Koch's brother super pac money pnwmom Mar 2016 #196

she does coordinate, campaign has admitted thru a loophole questionseverything Mar 2016 #198

Not true. pnwmom Mar 2016 #199

Boom billhicks76 Mar 2016 #205

She is a law and order hardliner who supports the death penalty noiretextatique Mar 2016 #204

pnwmom, I've given up arguing with BS fans, or pointing out facts. Fla Dem Mar 2016 #194

I Care About Results Not Candidates billhicks76 Mar 2016 #197

Yes she does...as others have told you noiretextatique Mar 2016 #203

You're DAMN RIGHT they don't noiretextatique Mar 2016 #202

A few fools may think that, but using that as a tactic noiretextatique Mar 2016 #201

No. It will just be ignored. Duppers Mar 2016 #76

I think it's because dorkzilla Mar 2016 #117

Ha! nt revbones Mar 2016 #119

lol! Pastiche423 Mar 2016 #206

Picked Up By TheWrap.com corbettkroehler Mar 2016 #30

Thanks for that link! pugetres Mar 2016 #37

Wrong. You've been duped by OP. See below full 45 minute speech. n/t ffr Mar 2016 #40

Let me guess... you're assuming, for no reason, that he is talking about the Obama legacy, beastie boy Mar 2016 #31

Shame on you tomm2thumbs, furthering a hit piece on a Democrat! ffr Mar 2016 #32

Whats your response to Clintons comment on the American people liberalnarb Mar 2016 #44

What's your response to my post? ffr Mar 2016 #52

the context didn't really help lastone Mar 2016 #66

A message of inclusion, if you bothered to watch his speech from ffr Mar 2016 #70

I watched then all lastone Mar 2016 #103

Where do you come to that conclusion? ffr Mar 2016 #153

Didn't help me either RufusTFirefly Mar 2016 #99

Thank you. Good post, ffr. n/t pnwmom Mar 2016 #128

What the hell ever happened to "A Clear Choice" Bill? liberalnarb Mar 2016 #35

Oh Bill, are you slippin', or did you mean to be mean to Barrack, who was a much better President downeastdaniel Mar 2016 #39

Wrong. Just a hit piece. (see above). ffr Mar 2016 #42

Its not a "hit piece" if the words are directly from Bills mouth. liberalnarb Mar 2016 #48

Wrong! Anything taken out of context is deceitful ffr Mar 2016 #58

Jesus, calm down. Short excerpt or not, Bill still said that the legacy of the last 8 years was liberalnarb Mar 2016 #82

8 years of continued trickle down economics. ffr Mar 2016 #91

Please post a link to the whole speech then. peace13 Mar 2016 #85

Yes and he meant the awful legacy of the obstructionist GOP Congress. nt Jitter65 Mar 2016 #41

^^^ THIS ffr Mar 2016 #46

Funny, thats not what he said. He said liberalnarb Mar 2016 #84

He didn't say "the awful legacy of the past seven years", did he? beastie boy Mar 2016 #106

I added additional clip for the context which makes it very clear they are running FROM Obama now tomm2thumbs Mar 2016 #107

SHAME ON YOU! Another out of context message ffr Mar 2016 #121

you wanted context, and that was the context imho tomm2thumbs Mar 2016 #129

USA Today tomm2thumbs Mar 2016 #190

You are absolutely correct, but also absolutely set on wanting ffr Mar 2016 #111

I watched more of the speech. He wasn't actually referring to republican('t) obstrutionism at all. liberalnarb Mar 2016 #113

You can put words in his mouth and you can repeat your message ffr Mar 2016 #124

Yeah, but that doesn't generate a lot of clicks and outrage Orrex Mar 2016 #47

he meant the awful legacy of the obstructionist GOP Congress. AlbertCat Mar 2016 #74

That's just silly... humbled_opinion Mar 2016 #100

WTF? Is he losing his mind? TexasMommaWithAHat Mar 2016 #45

Alzheimer's? Duppers Mar 2016 #69

Go ahead Hillarians...Defend that. SoapBox Mar 2016 #50

Just did. ffr Mar 2016 #60

What the hell zentrum Mar 2016 #53

Want to find out? See this link ffr Mar 2016 #63

Too bad he didn't blurt that out prior to the voting in the South. Bernie might have done ladjf Mar 2016 #56

Is that from 2008? notadmblnd Mar 2016 #57

That's what I first thought too. Duppers Mar 2016 #73

What a nasty thing to say. notadmblnd Mar 2016 #81

It was, wasn't it? beastie boy Mar 2016 #110

Those were his words. No one put them in his mouth notadmblnd Mar 2016 #120

Did he mention Obama and his seven-year legacy? beastie boy Mar 2016 #135

"The LAST eight years" - his words. nt Duppers Mar 2016 #144

Wow, you got it right! beastie boy Mar 2016 #145

I give up. Duppers Mar 2016 #146

And Clinton not mentioning Obama is another Clinton error. beastie boy Mar 2016 #151

Me? Duppers Mar 2016 #126

Not you notadmblnd Mar 2016 #142

Huh? ffr Mar 2016 #156

Are you going to deny that the second video posted was a slam against Obama too? notadmblnd Mar 2016 #160

Have you been hoodwinked? johnp3907 Mar 2016 #61

BINGO! ffr Mar 2016 #72

You spell it out for him, but the post stands. johnp3907 Mar 2016 #79

The post stands as an out of context hit piece, if that's what you need ffr Mar 2016 #83

I'm agreeing with you. johnp3907 Mar 2016 #92

the awful legacy of the last 8 years is the left still hasn't figured out certainot Mar 2016 #62

Disgusting GOP Tactic UMTerp01 Mar 2016 #88

face palm PatrynXX Mar 2016 #89

You can find out. It's a 45 min message about inclusion ffr Mar 2016 #96

I really don't care for him anymore PatrynXX Mar 2016 #150

Uh Oh! I wonder if the President didn't make a call tonight from Cuba to Akicita Mar 2016 #101

You can stop wondering. beastie boy Mar 2016 #115

Well I guess he forgot humbled_opinion Mar 2016 #104

He's sensitive to (accurate)criticism about the repeal of Glass-Steagall in 1999 due to WTO pressure Baobab Mar 2016 #105

Somewhere madamesilverspurs Mar 2016 #109

Wihout reading or hearing his ENTIRE speech . . . OldRedneck Mar 2016 #112

Bullhorn Bill Blunders... AzDar Mar 2016 #114

Nope, you too have been duped by a GOP ffr Mar 2016 #147

There. Is. Video. AzDar Mar 2016 #149

All of 45 minutes of it. beastie boy Mar 2016 #158

BSS jump into bed with the RW. Bernie has set a nasty tone redstateblues Mar 2016 #157

K&R! dchill Mar 2016 #127

Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #130

she polarizes her own party, but somehow thinks she'll create consensus with GOP? tomm2thumbs Mar 2016 #133

And we all know that "seemingly" signifies unequivocal agreement beastie boy Mar 2016 #154

Bill can't help himself.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #131

Divernan has excellent posts up-thread. nt Duppers Mar 2016 #132

Rovian "They didn't build that" out of context bullshit redstateblues Mar 2016 #139

I've always had a thing against him, but I never realized just how many pies polly7 Mar 2016 #140

It is clear Bill thinks it is time to pivot to court Republican voters tomm2thumbs Mar 2016 #141

CNN weighs in on this.. Duppers Mar 2016 #143

Regardless, the insinuations will continue... beastie boy Mar 2016 #148

Crooks & Liars says he did not say that. LonePirate Mar 2016 #152

I wonder if all who posted to the contrary will follow Drudge's lead and refuse to retract their beastie boy Mar 2016 #155

Well - in fact, he did NOT say it BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #165

Shame on Bill.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #172

So shame on Bill for allowing you to be duped ffr Mar 2016 #178

Shame on Bill for being sloppy. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #187

Ah, but with the Clintons, ANY set of BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #191

Well, he agrees with about 150 million Americans who are having to live with the results. n/t jtuck004 Mar 2016 #170

Hillary swigning right for the General Geronimoe Mar 2016 #171

Oh wow... he went full DINO there. Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #173

Oh wow...69 water carriers for Drudge & the Republis on DU ffr Mar 2016 #180

Your avatar shows how flawed your view of reality is these days. Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #181

What a strange thing to say. ffr Mar 2016 #183

"Betty is a right wing shill - I can substantiate everything I said about Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #184

Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #175

Jury results edbermac Mar 2016 #185

Some standards are still upheld, I'm glad to see: Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #186

The Clinton's are their own worst asset. Cassiopeia Mar 2016 #189

Interestingly, CNN deliberately edited the part about deregulation causing the crash. AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #195