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Token Republican

(242 posts)
12. Some follow up comments
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 01:31 AM
Mar 2014

Suicides by guns is of course gun deaths? Is it gun violence? That answer depends if you view suicide by non guns as a violent death.

There's lots of yapping about suicides in the USA. But lets look at numbers, shall we? Seems that the USA ranks 33 in the per capta rate of suicides, and a lot of the countries that have a higher rate have far more restrictive gun laws. So it seems that gun laws are unrelated to suicides. Of course, I've seen some people actually say it doesn't matter if people kill themselves by other means, just so long as its not a gun. How comforting.

Rank Country Male Female Average Year
1 Greenland[2][3] (more info) 116.9 45.0 83.0 2011[4]
2 Lithuania[5] (more info) 54.7 10.8 31.0 2012
3 South Korea[6] (more info) 38.2 18.0 28.1 2012
4 Guyana (more info) 39.0 13.4 26.4 2006
5 Kazakhstan (more info) 43.0 9.4 25.6 2008
6 China China[7] (more info) 22.23 2011
7 Belarus[8][9] 20.5 2012
8 Slovenia[10] 34.6 9.4 21.8 2011
9 Hungary[11] 37.4 8.5 21.7 2009
10 Japan (more info)[12] 21.7 2012
11 Sri Lanka (more info) 34.8 9.24 21.3 2011[13]
12 Ukraine (more info) 37.8 7.0 21.2 2009
13 Russia[14] (more info) 19.7 2013
14 Croatia[15] 30.2 10.0 19.7 2002
15 Latvia 20.8 2010 [16]
16 Moldova 17.4 2008
17 Serbia 24.9 9.0 17.3 2011[17]
18 Belgium[note 1][11][note 2] 17[18] 2009
19 Uruguay[19] 16.5 2012
20 Bhutan[20](more info) 16.2 2011
21 Finland[21] 24.6 7.9 16.0 2012
22 South Africa[22] 15.4 2005
23 Poland 27.8 3.8 15.3 2010
24 Taiwan[23] 20.5 9.7 15.1 2011
25 Estonia 27.3 4.5 14.8 2010 [16]
26 France (more info) 22.8 7.4 14.7 2010 [16]
27 Suriname 23.9 4.8 14.4 2005
28 Bosnia and Herzegovina[24] 13.3 2011
29 Austria 23.8 7.1 12.8 2009
30 Czech Republic 12.8 2010
31 Cuba 19.0 5.5 12.3 2008
32 Bulgaria 18.8 6.2 12.3 2008
33 United States[25] (more info)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate

Declines occurred after the passage of specific legislation designed to prevent gun-related deaths. Gun homicides dropped after the passage of the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act (1993), the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act or so-called Assault Weapons Ban (1994), and the FBI’s National Instant Criminal Background Check System (1998). In the absence of significant federal legislation over the past, further reductions in gun violence have stalled.


This one's going to be fun. Once again, lack of any critical thinking shows. I suggest you look at the graph of the expansion of CCW rights since the 1980s.

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Looks like the expansion of CCW corresponds with the same time frame. But wait there's more! After the assault weapon ban expired in 2004, gun violence continued to drop.

Want more?

Here's a very telling picture.

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Notice anything? Those big red blotches, thats where there are the most gun deaths. If you did your homework, then you'd see they are in the locations with the most restrictive gun laws.

Oh but I know the next answer. Its because there are weak laws elsewhere and we need to restrict people who live in places where they obey the law.

Right.

Note - I realize this post is not in response to the quote. Comments are not directed to the person I am responding to.





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