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JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
3. Greatest draft prospect from a physical standpoint
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 04:16 AM
Jun 2014

Last edited Sat Jun 21, 2014, 07:50 AM - Edit history (1)

A QB w/ a cannon arm, quick release, and could run as fast as receivers and corner-backs. 4.25 as fast as Randy Moss and still fastest ever for a QB. It fascinates me some of the personalities that also happen to possess never before seen talent. Before-Megatron, Moss had the hands, speed, height to be by far the greatest receiver ever if he had a Jerry Rice or Torry Holt mentality and work ethic.

Vick is surviving on talent alone, if he was more humble (stop w/ the MVP talk(2010), changing the game, arrogant talk) , didn't have financing and participating in a national dogfighting ring (sick world) in his background, he'd have more suitors. He went 3 full seasons not starting - 2 spent in prison unable to work out, practice, train w/ a team and came back by far a better passer than he ever was w/ Atlanta. (Mora's offense, pre-season injury after solid 1st full year, and arrogance hurt things).

I wouldn't say Vick revolutionized it, there was statistical discrimination at the QB position which started to go away prior and is pretty much nonexistent today. While he impacted defensive strategy & game plan he was simply a check-down man w/ a few design runs here or there, and play action at Atlanta. Coaches imagination w/ what they can do w/ a QB w/ such a ability is what revolutionized w/ the Pistol and such which when Vick came back in the NFL was able to be a better QB because of the changes. If you could turn every QB in the league today to 22 and put them in a draft he'd have a much harder time standing out. Cam Newton runs about 4.53, weighs as much as linebackers, cannon arm, makes good decisions. Kaepernick, RGIII, and Russell Wilson (who Patrick Peterson says is the toughest to defend since he isn't looking to run) are also fast QBs who throw the ball well. Manziel could be another.

Saban pointed out the question is can they survive and sustain playing that style? Vick hasn't been able to. It isn't because he isn't tough, he took a pounding - which was more of an o-line problem - in back-to-back years from the Cards. First game, he broke his ribs and still stayed in the game. 2nd game he took a vicious blind-slide hit from Rhodes which he didn't really have time to do anything about. Newton (size) & Wilson (style) probably can. Kaepernick has been able to thus far.

Vick, right now, is a QB that can move the team down the field who fumbles trying. Personally, I would've took him over every QB since Warner for my team. If Palmer can keep the INTs down then I wouldn't trade especially since he is much more likely to stay healthy but the Jets should definitely start him over Geno Smith. Problem w/ Vick is you need another good starting caliber QB to win but Smith is serviceable, very good if he can keep the ints down

On edit - I should probably revise my comments. Just read the headline overlooking the "wide-ranging" interview, the questions asked likely led to this direction and Vick has a strong case here. One thing I don't or didn't understand is Rex Ryan talking about an open competition while Vick has conceded the job to Geno Smith from the start. Who is being straightforward here? Post-conviction there actually isn't a whole lot I can say bad about him. Worst story I heard was he had a drink at the airport shortly after being signed by the Eagles which bothered me.. not at all. Great locker room guy from all accounts and appears to be supporting Geno Smith here.

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