2016 Postmortem

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50. He took too long to join the Democratic party

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 04:12 AM

Mar 2016

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Bernie the joined the party just eight months ago so he could more get media and name recognition. He certainly wasn't going to get that running as an independent socialist. He and Jill Stein would be in the same boat. People outside of New England would be asking "Bernie who" if he hadn't made that move.

He was literally late to the party though. He should have joined years ago and made a name for himself nationally outside of Vermont — you know, to get name recognition and media coverage, form relationships with constituent groups, especially ethnic constituents so his support does not just come mostly from white dems. He should have put in work for the party, raised money for other dem candidates — you know, the kinds of things that earn super delegates.

Eight months in the party of course puts him behind Clinton on those things, which when you think about it, explains why he's behind in both pledged and super delegates.

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So what is Bernie doing wrong? [View all] Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 OP

I really don't think he is doing a lot wrong. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #1

+1 Historic NY Mar 2016 #28

He clearly can't motivate voters to vote. onehandle Mar 2016 #2

Stomach turning whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #25

It is disgusting Politicalboi Mar 2016 #29

I might go back to I, I'm so fed up with the DNC and DWS. If this is the trend of the democratic RKP5637 Mar 2016 #106

He took too long to join the Democratic party brush Mar 2016 #50

Well said... Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #80

Since so many Bernie supporters think money treestar Mar 2016 #99

+1 stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #93

She has done this before, made her mistakes, and learned from them. bravenak Mar 2016 #3

+1 It's about Clinton, not necessarily Sanders. Nt NCTraveler Mar 2016 #6

I agree. She has the political experience Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #9

Bernie's not doing anything wrong, Clinton's not doing great. Ron Green Mar 2016 #4

I'd say it's pretty close for someone starting with pretty much zero name recognition NWCorona Mar 2016 #5

.^that 840high Mar 2016 #32

That is spot ON Politicalboi Mar 2016 #34

He wasn't prepared for this race Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #7

He actually hadn't planned on running, but there was a vacuum... Ken Burch Mar 2016 #10

What's really messed up about that is... TCJ70 Mar 2016 #19

It's his job to MAKE people pay attention. kennetha Mar 2016 #22

Voters have a role in that as well... TCJ70 Mar 2016 #24

In order to be heard choie Mar 2016 #44

Yep, exactly. The DNC, DWS and M$M are all stacked against Bernie. It's obvious what's going RKP5637 Mar 2016 #102

Please point me to them , I've been trying to find these post-1963 pkdu Mar 2016 #54

I was talking about this campaign season... TCJ70 Mar 2016 #98

He's corrected his campaign's initial omissions on race completely now. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #8

"He's addressed race completely now." NCTraveler Mar 2016 #11

OK...i'll rephrase... Ken Burch Mar 2016 #12

"that's all I'm going to say about that" NCTraveler Mar 2016 #14

To be fair about the DNC, they weren't exactly neutral in 2000, either Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #20

They did seem pretty freaking sold on Kerry. n/t. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #35

... OZi Mar 2016 #13

Taking on the corporate media, large financial institutions, drug and insurance companies is not... slipslidingaway Mar 2016 #15

exactly! Also, his name recognition was not the same coming in Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #95

So true! nt slipslidingaway Mar 2016 #116

He didn't plan on becoming a major force kennetha Mar 2016 #16

Yep. Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #23

Haha what a load of shit whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #27

Excellent analysis. nt Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #30

Like the DNC choie Mar 2016 #45

Bravo. shadowandblossom Mar 2016 #49

So Sanders wasn't 'really' serious hunh?!?! Lol... The excuses abound uponit7771 Mar 2016 #62

Yes, in a word. Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #82

Great post. Nicely done! NurseJackie Mar 2016 #87

Great post. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2016 #101

That seems about right, but there's another thing. MineralMan Mar 2016 #111

He has no track record, couldn't get SP passed in his own state so his words of his leadership ring uponit7771 Mar 2016 #17

There is nothing that choie Mar 2016 #47

She also eats baby bunny rabbit ears : rolleyes: uponit7771 Mar 2016 #53

Another incomprehensible post choie Mar 2016 #63

I Uhgree, thier consummate wingerish villianizing of Hillary makes no sense uponit7771 Mar 2016 #66

no she's not a villain choie Mar 2016 #68

as is Sanders, in myriad and noted ways uponit7771 Mar 2016 #69

Bullshit. choie Mar 2016 #71

Nope, he can throw no stones... It's fantasy to think he can uponit7771 Mar 2016 #72

Not only can he throw stones choie Mar 2016 #73

So is he, he lobbies the same people she does for money... Sanders can't pass the clean hands test b uponit7771 Mar 2016 #75

And now, I'm done with you. choie Mar 2016 #74

Typical uponit7771 Mar 2016 #76

"In myriad and noted ways"? Start noting.. whathehell Mar 2016 #84

Hillary spent the last 8 years griffi94 Mar 2016 #18

I think your last paragraph could prove to be a silver lining Lucky Luciano Mar 2016 #48

Spot. On. Should be an OP. nt pkdu Mar 2016 #58

"...mostly pointed out", one of the main reasons Im voting against him, he's great at pointing thing uponit7771 Mar 2016 #60

Now, that's a passle o' truth right there! Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #83

Perfectly said. randome Mar 2016 #109

Everything is incremental? Then how do you explain the Civil Rights Movement, Land of Enchantment Mar 2016 #110

All of those things were done in steps griffi94 Mar 2016 #112

He's going after big money, they want their gravy train kept intact Waiting For Everyman Mar 2016 #21

Your title is what it's ALL about... 4nic8em Mar 2016 #118

We haven't even voted yet Politicalboi Mar 2016 #26

Many Clinton voters are duped into thinking she's the only one who can beat Trump. SMC22307 Mar 2016 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow Mar 2016 #33

Derp. You're talking about mostly Dumbfuckistan States. And consider this: Lorien Mar 2016 #36

How would you define a "Dumbfuckistan" state? Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #37

The same way DU has ALWAYS defined them Lorien Mar 2016 #39

Nothing is ever Bernie's fault... Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #41

Interesting.....the photo you just posted is about Bernie getting support in Utah.... Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #42

And one of the whitest...I can't see how an ultra progressive has one of the most racially ... uponit7771 Mar 2016 #57

Clinton did it... Sanders is doing nothing wrong /sarcasm uponit7771 Mar 2016 #56

Must be talking about Kansas, Nebraska and Oklahoma...I probably shouldn't say that Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #40

Isn't it interesting? Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #43

Yeap Utah is red and exceptionally white uponit7771 Mar 2016 #59

Lol... He deserves less time now. No track record and s mostly racially homogenous uponit7771 Mar 2016 #55

One other thing...I'm fine with Jeff Weaver (Weaver has been with Sanders over 20 years) Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #38

Win or lose, you really hve to at least acknowledge that what Bernie did was amazing. Lucky Luciano Mar 2016 #46

I don't HRC supporters want to give him any credit at all except for ruining her coronation Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #96

In my eyes, nothing. I believe he's getting screwed. dmm80 Mar 2016 #51

Nothing wrong. Second place is pretty good! 6chars Mar 2016 #52

The DNC doesn't want him. The media doesn't want him. PoliticalMalcontent Mar 2016 #61

The dem voters don't want him either, Obama had a lot to overcome too... I know Obama is hated among uponit7771 Mar 2016 #64

We live in a country of dumb-asses folks .. got it. Good. YOHABLO Mar 2016 #65

Yeap millions of people voting for a guy who's been in Washington for 30 years claiming he's the new uponit7771 Mar 2016 #67

Sigh... Lucky Luciano Mar 2016 #88

Wrong question but PATRICK Mar 2016 #70

It's About The Media november3rd Mar 2016 #77

Regarding winning the presidency lovemydog Mar 2016 #78

^^^This!^^^ Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #86

Your point about Sanders supporters continuing by getting MineralMan Mar 2016 #113

He's not doing anything wrong Onlooker Mar 2016 #79

appealing to the wrong demographic DrDan Mar 2016 #81

I don't think he's doing anything wrong gwheezie Mar 2016 #85

He's been too nice to his unscrupulous right-wing opponent. Broward Mar 2016 #89

Nothing. Vinca Mar 2016 #90

Bernie biggest problem is he took on a very strong candidate. DCBob Mar 2016 #91

Given that the expectation last May was he might hit 5 percent karynnj Mar 2016 #92

God you are redundant. Iowa results: Clinton 49.9% Sanders 49.6%. Here is you in December: Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #94

So not only did Bernie end up losing Iowa.... Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #104

Smug is ugly,always. Manny and I do not get along, why would you toss him at me? Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #107

Why should I give a shit if you and Manny get along or not? Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #108

Obviously you do, you brought him up and tried to play association guilt ball at me. Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #114

1. He based his "revolution" on the age group workinclasszero Mar 2016 #97

You probably don't remember but Hillary beat Obama with the popular vote. Loudestlib Mar 2016 #100

Absolutely nothing! ananda Mar 2016 #103

Sanders is too dependent on the Millenial vote IMO. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #105

Running on a discontent platform in an expanding economy Recursion Mar 2016 #115

He spent the past 50 years criticizing others and not building relationships The Second Stone Mar 2016 #117