2016 Postmortem

jillan

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17. DWS better show up and fight this. This could have been a test run for November.

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Wed Mar 23, 2016, 11:12 AM

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Bernie Supporters PLEASE do not blame Hillary for what happened in AZ & VICE VERSA [View all] jillan Mar 2016 OP

Too bad Hillary supporters can't see what this portends for November. Cobalt Violet Mar 2016 #1

Exactly. KPN Mar 2016 #33

If Trump is the Republican candidate randr Mar 2016 #84

We do, that's why many more will take advantage of early voting. Pisces Mar 2016 #90

There has been shenanigans at the caucus and convention level by Hillary's people in Iowa All in it together Mar 2016 #2

No doubt! CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #35

Exactly scscholar Mar 2016 #82

Actually...not really CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #87

"cut it out" desmiller Mar 2016 #78

Yep - DU Dems should know this is GOP ELECTION FRAUD, as usual. blm Mar 2016 #3

Lol!!!! KPN Mar 2016 #34

Arizona had nothing to do with Hillary or the Dem Party dbackjon Mar 2016 #44

Lol vdogg Mar 2016 #53

Dem election officials blocked Dems from voting booth? Please share blm Mar 2016 #74

I made a long post once, wildeyed Mar 2016 #89

You are spot on! Punkingal Mar 2016 #4

Exactly right pandr32 Mar 2016 #7

Can we blame the DNC for being silent during all this? Gwhittey Mar 2016 #5

No - since they protested the number of polling places BEFORE the election. dbackjon Mar 2016 #45

It is up to the state party, candidates wildeyed Mar 2016 #92

EXACTLY. One thing I noticed while watching ALL of the primary results was chalky Mar 2016 #6

That's actually pretty normal. jeff47 Mar 2016 #11

Can you point me in the direction where you're seeing data to back up this trend? chalky Mar 2016 #96

They also have more candidates LisaM Mar 2016 #127

You keep saying this but I see no evidence on Twitter TBF Mar 2016 #8

Didn't you know that the reduction of precincts in Maricopa County from 200 to 60 Tanuki Mar 2016 #14

When you go into the polls to vote they do not know who you are going to vote for. jillan Mar 2016 #15

That is not evidence from Hillary TBF Mar 2016 #25

I agree completely. We cannot let this stand. yourpaljoey Mar 2016 #32

You have to remember that Bernie supporters tend to be more savvy when it comes to social media Matt_in_STL Mar 2016 #64

I know a number of Hillary voters that this happened too. dbackjon Mar 2016 #46

But we've expected shinanigans and SwiftBoating because that's what the Wealthy do. rhett o rick Mar 2016 #9

Sure Rick. zappaman Mar 2016 #29

Enormous K & R. Thanks for posting. Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #10

I think everyone should step back from this. Both sides NWCorona Mar 2016 #12

Just like in InDecision 2000, keep it within reach, then steal it in broad day light. nolabels Mar 2016 #22

Yup. Agschmid Mar 2016 #59

I blame the party for doing basically nothing on the entire subject. jeff47 Mar 2016 #13

DWS better show up and fight this. This could have been a test run for November. jillan Mar 2016 #17

How about blaming the 90% of voters that failed to show up in 2014 dbackjon Mar 2016 #48

That's also on the party. jeff47 Mar 2016 #52

In 2014 we had an bad candidate for Governor dbackjon Mar 2016 #56

Then they weren't dynamite. jeff47 Mar 2016 #62

What did YOU do to fight this? wildeyed Mar 2016 #93

Then point me towards all the massive efforts by the party. jeff47 Mar 2016 #128

We talk about this "fucking" issue all the time. wildeyed Mar 2016 #133

K&R. I agree completely. DanTex Mar 2016 #16

Yup, agreed! nt riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #18

They've got to find out what happened with provisional ballot mess, the lines, wrong registrations EndElectoral Mar 2016 #19

I don't. I understand voter suppression in red states. mmonk Mar 2016 #20

Totally agree but why in the primary? It will not help them jwirr Mar 2016 #41

The GOP establishment didn't want people voting for Trump, either. dbackjon Mar 2016 #50

Reducing the number of polling places in Latino population centers would help Trump, not hurt him onenote Mar 2016 #65

They reduced them everywhere dbackjon Mar 2016 #73

Systems test? I have no idea unless consistency of the system. mmonk Mar 2016 #57

I asked my self that last night when I heard of it. Well I do jwirr Mar 2016 #66

Agreed. mmonk Mar 2016 #77

What do you call the finger pointing at Clinton/DNC? joshcryer Mar 2016 #111

Exactly - I'm in NC and the GOP fascists are turning voter suppression into an art form here. blm Mar 2016 #75

Yep. I've marched in downtown Raleigh now mmonk Mar 2016 #76

check your inbox - blm Mar 2016 #86

Done. mmonk Mar 2016 #94

It also happened to Republicans and Greens DesertRat Mar 2016 #21

Isn't what you are saying the latest meme? jwirr Mar 2016 #38

Many or most of the Indies that showed up to vote had reregistered to Dem. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #42

I would like to see her oldandhappy Mar 2016 #23

You got your wish.....granted nearly a year ago.... Tanuki Mar 2016 #85

nothing about the actual "counting" of votes questionseverything Mar 2016 #102

I don't know any of the details cheapdate Mar 2016 #24

I think it was incompetence and an untested new system sweetloukillbot Mar 2016 #106

You hit on two problems Aerows Mar 2016 #112

They are. EVERYONE is calling for the recorder's head. nt sweetloukillbot Mar 2016 #113

They should be! Aerows Mar 2016 #114

Strongest recommendation. We need to stand together against disenfranchisement. suffragette Mar 2016 #26

Exactly. mmonk Mar 2016 #103

Bernie spoke up. Will Hillary denounce it? NowSam Mar 2016 #27

She did. Agschmid Mar 2016 #60

Proving again her contempt NowSam Mar 2016 #69

So she calls out the issues in an election, a year before it happens. Agschmid Mar 2016 #72

Arizona Secretary of State, Michele Reagan, is the culprit. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2016 #28

This was all on the County Recorder sweetloukillbot Mar 2016 #118

I agree. Luminous Animal Mar 2016 #30

I don't blame Hillary. n/t Herman4747 Mar 2016 #31

Until we have proof of exactly what happened I agree with jwirr Mar 2016 #36

I agree with the OP. floriduck Mar 2016 #37

Come on Jillian BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #39

Yes they were powerless. Yes they complained before the election dbackjon Mar 2016 #51

Our Governor was bought and paid for by the Koch brothers. Not a joke. jillan Mar 2016 #61

Did the DNC or Hillary try to do anything about it? BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #70

What do you think they should have done? wildeyed Mar 2016 #95

In the month you've been here, it APPEARS you WANT to see GOP crimes shifted to Dems blm Mar 2016 #79

Great post! kicked and recced eom Arazi Mar 2016 #40

Right. . . I have criticized her and her campaign, but all we KNOW is that there was a mess pdsimdars Mar 2016 #43

I don't blame Hillary democrattotheend Mar 2016 #47

Has the DNC done anything before, during, or after the fiasco? HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #49

Exactly right, Hillary and the DNC benefit from voter suppression in Arizona BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #68

Nope. wildeyed Mar 2016 #98

Our system is corrupt, top to bottom, side to side... polichick Mar 2016 #54

Wrong! wildeyed Mar 2016 #117

"All they have left is money and dirty tricks." Same can be said of corporate Dems. polichick Mar 2016 #119

OK, then show some proof. wildeyed Mar 2016 #120

If you think HRC is all about everyone voting this primary season... polichick Mar 2016 #121

Proof. wildeyed Mar 2016 #122

My own experience as a party activist for 40+ years is all the proof I need... polichick Mar 2016 #124

You are confused. wildeyed Mar 2016 #125

Don't worry - you'll learn how it works eventually. polichick Mar 2016 #126

I know how it works. wildeyed Mar 2016 #132

I stand by my original statement that you deemed "wrong"... polichick Mar 2016 #135

This was not a Hillary v. Bernie Issue. RepubliCON-Watch Mar 2016 #55

Except for the impossible discrepancies between exit polling and official results, I agree. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #58

I'm one Hillary supporter... JSup Mar 2016 #63

You ought to check out this video. PotatoChip Mar 2016 #67

When you have the Dem National Party seemingly discouraging voter turnout to ensure their chosen AzDar Mar 2016 #71

How has the DNC "discouraged voter turnout"? brooklynite Mar 2016 #88

Link please. wildeyed Mar 2016 #91

I don't blame Hillary. I urge her to use her voice to help condemn it. Tom Rinaldo Mar 2016 #80

The long lines in Arizona were due to the gutting of Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act Gothmog Mar 2016 #81

Was Arizona a voting rights state? wildeyed Mar 2016 #97

No, Arizona was one of the 15 states with special federal oversight protection under the VR act. Tanuki Mar 2016 #104

Yes, it was a covered jurisdiction under Section 5 of the voting rights act Gothmog Mar 2016 #105

And we are seeing why. wildeyed Mar 2016 #110

The date of inclusion is on the chart from the DOJ Gothmog Mar 2016 #115

I blame the Third Way DINO legislators who have not protected our interests Zorra Mar 2016 #83

Don't kid yourselves, it's BOTH parties. Those in control NorthCarolina Mar 2016 #99

If you are really from NC, wildeyed Mar 2016 #108

This system hursts all Dems, Clinton included Bad Thoughts Mar 2016 #100

The repubs in charge in AZ closed all the polling places. But where were the dems? ViseGrip Mar 2016 #101

Is the Hillary campaign screaming to the rooftops ibegurpard Mar 2016 #107

Exactly! Blue_In_AK Mar 2016 #109

No blaming per se. The complaint is that they are willing to turn a blind eye when it benefits them. AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #116

Exactly - there was plenty of chortling from a few of the Hillary supporters that the complaints bullwinkle428 Mar 2016 #129

I agree that the GOP is behind actual election shenanigans PufPuf23 Mar 2016 #123

I remember back in 2004 when election fraud was a very serious subject here eridani Mar 2016 #130

It is still a serious issue. wildeyed Mar 2016 #134

Kick to the top yardwork Mar 2016 #131