2016 Postmortem

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts) Tue May 24, 2016, 09:57 AM May 2016

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Ted Rall: Why I am #NeverHillary [View all]

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Many progressives are baffled by this stance. Trump is a threat to democracy, decency, peace and the economy. He acts and talks like a nut. Why not suck it up and vote for Hillary? She’s experienced, steady and presentable. Unlike Trump, she understands the issues. Plus: first woman president! That’s 225 years overdue!

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The fact that she wears bright-colored Doctor Evil suits and has a silly laugh and twinkly eyes and is kinda smart can’t change the fact she has never voted against a war, or apologized for voting for one, or promised not to start any new ones. Her resume can’t cover up for her record: zero sponsorships or votes for a major anti-poverty proposal, and only one vote against a job-killing free trade agreement.

I don’t vote for monsters.

http://rall.com/2016/05/23/why-i-am-neverhillary

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Ted Rall: Why I am #NeverHillary [View all] RufusTFirefly May 2016 OP

That and the establishment is shoving her down our throats d_legendary1 May 2016 #1

It's really silly that some Sanders supporters are so incapable mythology May 2016 #8

The primary race doesn't actually prove that. hellofromreddit May 2016 #11

Is this the first time in history there have been closed primaries in various states? Cali_Democrat May 2016 #75

Obviously, I am not claiming that this is new. hellofromreddit May 2016 #90

+1 cui bono May 2016 #105

Great post. Dawgs May 2016 #121

Actually we can tell who is more popular lagomorph777 May 2016 #89

It will be a sad day, If Hillary has her way laserhaas May 2016 #115

If people weren't being disenfranchised d_legendary1 May 2016 #24

We don't have any problem admitting it. Chan790 May 2016 #34

^This LondonReign2 May 2016 #88

Actually thats a steaming pile of crap. liberalnarb May 2016 #36

Donald Trump won his primary in a landslide Martin Eden May 2016 #39

Correction: more voters able to vote in dem primaries like her better than Sanders jack_krass May 2016 #52

Well it IS the DEMOCRATIC primaries. 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #61

I know many who supported Clinton but would have preferred not to Armstead May 2016 #67

This message was self-deleted by its author NowSam May 2016 #81

clinton 3hummingbirds May 2016 #103

Why do you not KNOW that PEOPLE HATE Hillary almost as much as they hate Trump? Rockyj May 2016 #117

VOTERS Beacool May 2016 #85

What part of disenfranchisement d_legendary1 May 2016 #91

Fellow citizens kickin' you ass with our vote. seabeyond May 2016 #116

Who cares. n/t seaglass May 2016 #2

obviously, you don't. Hiraeth May 2016 #20

Their candidate is winning dirty d_legendary1 May 2016 #28

The kind of dirt you can't wash off at the end of the day, too. Hiraeth May 2016 #31

you mad? n/t seaglass May 2016 #46

you care? n/t Hiraeth May 2016 #58

Yes. There is no reason to get mad. So what if I think it is pointless that someone feels they seaglass May 2016 #66

Why do you bother to participate in pointless threads? Seems you would find better things to do Hiraeth May 2016 #68

Usually I don't but I was bored and waiting for something to happen at work :-). To each his or her seaglass May 2016 #70

waiting for something to happen at work Hiraeth May 2016 #71

Well, considering you took the time to respond... liberalnarb May 2016 #37

haha, yes that was a major effort. :-) n/t seaglass May 2016 #45

Congratulations #292 corkhead May 2016 #41

haha. n/t seaglass May 2016 #44

dude is an amazing political cartoonist reddread May 2016 #3

White Bernie Bro says "let's burn it all down". sufrommich May 2016 #4

have you ever watched Farenheit 9-11? reddread May 2016 #10

I read the book and I have no idea what sufrommich May 2016 #15

wow, a book? reddread May 2016 #18

Misread the title and thought you were talking about sufrommich May 2016 #21

its a point you just made. reddread May 2016 #29

9-11...NOT 451.... islandmkl May 2016 #19

Michael Moore says he'd vote for Hillary. Metric System May 2016 #102

I believe he is voting against Trump if Hillary is the nominee. cui bono May 2016 #106

White Hilloon says "let's burn it all down like a lady" Hiraeth May 2016 #26

I'm glad you admit Hillary supporters are entitled assholes. BillZBubb May 2016 #59

Oh, those terrible white people. Jester Messiah May 2016 #78

Goldman Sachs profits off of wars... Yurovsky May 2016 #5

Boo DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #6

tRump thanks Ted for his support n/t SFnomad May 2016 #7

It's not a binary choice... Yurovsky May 2016 #12

A third party vote would just be a throwaway Blue_Tires May 2016 #96

A Hillary vote is keeping your "corporatism" intact. cui bono May 2016 #108

"Grandpa, what did you to stop Donald Trump from bringing fascism to America? " DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #17

+ a million. What utter contemptible privilege.nt sufrommich May 2016 #25

What's the kid gonna ask if we vote for Oligarchy, which is what HRC would bring? Fawke Em May 2016 #50

Last I checked the oligarchy didn't turn six million of my co-religionists into soap and lampshades DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #54

"Oh my poor uneducated grandson, fascism was already well entrenched by then vintx May 2016 #51

I let it happen Dem2 May 2016 #56

I see fascist tendencies in all candidates running except Bernie jack_krass May 2016 #60

Wanting to overturn the popular vote is the sine qua non of fascism. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #63

The popular vote means jack shit. Why would anyone want to overturn it jack_krass May 2016 #73

" The popular vote means jack shit..." DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #77

Oh FFS you know damn fucking well what I mean jack_krass May 2016 #93

this is why she HAS to court the right wing vote asap reddread May 2016 #9

She's politically already on their side anyway, NorthCarolina May 2016 #23

exactly. Hiraeth May 2016 #33

Whaat?! You mean PNAC co-founder Robert Kagan isn't a progressive?? RufusTFirefly May 2016 #111

so, basically, Rall isn't to be listened to bigtree May 2016 #13

Sounds privileged to vote for a candidate who supports every war and opposes every social Doctor_J May 2016 #35

Opposes every social program? Mz Pip May 2016 #55

A President Trump would be a good subject for a cartoonist. Tal Vez May 2016 #14

If Trump is elected his opponents better set up an ersatz samizdat. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #16

Ted Rall. Desperately trying to stay relevant...nt SidDithers May 2016 #22

Two more weeks or so for these sort of posts Demsrule86 May 2016 #27

I know why Ted Rall Demsrule86 May 2016 #30

The Bernie biographer speaks nt Progressive dog May 2016 #32

This survived a jury, but shouldn't have. MineralMan May 2016 #38

Wow, he uses sexist arguments and lies. [snark] I'm totally convinced!! [/snark] CrowCityDem May 2016 #40

Ted Rall says Iraq War Vote is enough reason not to vote Hillary in November. Skinner May 2016 #42

Are you suggesting there's a double standard at work here? sufrommich May 2016 #49

I guess he must have "evolved" mikehiggins May 2016 #62

He also loathes Obama. Starry Messenger May 2016 #76

The alternative was GWBush felix_numinous May 2016 #98

Because Bush? melman May 2016 #112

I believe Kerry's position was more nuanced dreamnightwind May 2016 #113

The Iraq vote is a disqualifier in the Democratic primary, and should be for all of us Martin Eden May 2016 #120

So reading through this thread I've found a new (to me) talking point TransitJohn May 2016 #43

Their talking points are so rich in irony. vintx May 2016 #53

Oh, that's been circulating for weeks, months perhaps PDittie May 2016 #69

The Hillary people claim Bernie supporters are all wealthy white guys. oh and young. nt m-lekktor May 2016 #82

rich white guys 3hummingbirds May 2016 #104

It's a corollary of the BernieBro myth. winter is coming May 2016 #92

"...she wears bright-colored Doctor Evil suits ..." CrispyQ May 2016 #47

While I agree with most of what he said, the SCOTUS picks are too important to leave to the Heritage corkhead May 2016 #48

I sure wish you had told that to Joe Biden 25 years ago reddread May 2016 #74

perhaps, but Bush v Gore put the starch back in. corkhead May 2016 #79

no kidding reddread May 2016 #80

That is why it is more than just a little dangerous... bvar22 May 2016 #99

I totally agree, and perhaps it is a little too soon to speculate about the general. corkhead May 2016 #109

Predator vs Alien nolabels May 2016 #57

It's a franchise. Octafish May 2016 #65

So, I guess that's supposed to make sense to help elect trump when he is 10 times worse... Stellar May 2016 #64

Oh, Puh-leeze!!! chervilant May 2016 #122

P.S. chervilant May 2016 #123

... VulgarPoet May 2016 #72

I'll wager that most (if not all) knew the case for war was fraudulent RufusTFirefly May 2016 #83

Another idiot. Beacool May 2016 #84

Fuck Ted Rall. Typical White, male privileged leftist Yavin4 May 2016 #86

That clinches it. "Privilege" is definitely Brock's Word of the Day RufusTFirefly May 2016 #87

Deja vu all over again Babel_17 May 2016 #94

I guess Rall is voting for Trump, then... Blue_Tires May 2016 #95

I guess you didn't read the article, then RufusTFirefly May 2016 #97

I just wasn't in the mood to read another emoprog apologia for hating Hillary Blue_Tires May 2016 #100

A lot of that going on lately with that group. n/t JimDandy May 2016 #114

Why is this shit allowed to be posted on DU?!? Metric System May 2016 #101

I think for the same reason you can call it "shit"? insta8er May 2016 #110

Banned from Kos for racism.....and I should give a shit about his opinion? nt msanthrope May 2016 #107

Agree Pretty Much With Ted colsohlibgal May 2016 #118

Ted Rall? ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2016 #119

"never voted against a war" 'NUFF SAID. leeroysphitz May 2016 #124