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redqueen

(115,103 posts) Sun Jun 8, 2014, 06:31 PM Jun 2014

"Consensual sex" is just sex. [View all]

To say "consensual sex" implies that there is such a thing as "non consensual sex", which there isn’t. That’s rape. That is what it needs to be called. There is only sex or rape. Do not teach people that rape is just another type of sex. They are two very separate events. You wouldn’t say "breathing swimming" and "non breathing swimming", you say swimming and drowning.

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"Consensual sex" is just sex. [View all] redqueen Jun 2014 OP

Yup! TexasProgresive Jun 2014 #1

If someone is under age...they cannot consent...THAT is what it is referring to... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #2

Thats rape. nt redqueen Jun 2014 #4

Statutory rape has the potential to be both. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #12

Rape and sex are mutually exclusive. A minor CANNOT give consent, so it's non-consensual thus rape. Squinch Jun 2014 #13

A minor can give consent. What is legal and what is ethical are not the same... Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #14

Again, a minor CANNOT give consent. Squinch Jun 2014 #15

What your argument amounts to is the eschewing of reality... Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #17

How does what I am saying differ from saying "statutory rape is rape" which you agree with below? Squinch Jun 2014 #19

A 15 year old is of the legal age to consent in some states. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #20

Barring Romeo and Juliet exceptions, no there are no states where 14 or 15 are the ages of consent. Squinch Jun 2014 #21

I think he's thinking of other countries. redqueen Jun 2014 #22

I'd prefer to stay far away from them. Squinch Jun 2014 #23

You did not answer my question. What is the point of having an age of consent? Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #24

It is not a false sense of protection. It is a protection. Squinch Jun 2014 #25

The creepy assholes who talk about how "she acted older than her age..." Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #51

"statutory rape has the potential to be both consensual sex and rape." JTFrog Jun 2014 #58

It's unreal, isn't it? redqueen Jun 2014 #60

Please read my other posts in here. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author JTFrog Jun 2014 #80

Two minors have sex. Who's the rapist? They both engaged in what would legally be MADem Jun 2014 #54

Neither would be considered guilty of statuatory rape in most states BainsBane Jun 2014 #55

It's interesting how often this is brought up in threads about rape. redqueen Jun 2014 #61

What if they are both males? Both females? MADem Jun 2014 #64

The adult is the rapist. The person who breaks the law is the rapist BainsBane Jun 2014 #66

No adults. That was my point. No priests, no perverts. MADem Jun 2014 #74

If they are both kids, there is no crime BainsBane Jun 2014 #76

That doesn't stop the state from bringing charges. See post 78. nt MADem Jun 2014 #79

Romeo and Juliet is not the law in all fifty states. Further, children below the age of consent MADem Jun 2014 #63

Your articles aren't don't deal with Romeo and Juliet cases BainsBane Jun 2014 #65

And this is why ignore this obvious red herring every time. redqueen Jun 2014 #69

You started this thread, and I thought it was about the definition of "consensual sex" MADem Jun 2014 #78

No, those articles were illustrating my OTHER point, that children who are too young MADem Jun 2014 #75

Statutory rape is rape. redqueen Jun 2014 #16

Statutory rape is rape, you are correct. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #18

Bravo. Exactly. And of course I agree. Rape. Use the word. Nt seabeyond Jun 2014 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author Laffy Kat Jun 2014 #5

Disagree strongly. I've been beat up, and I've been raped, and there is a world of difference. redqueen Jun 2014 #6

Sorry, Redqueen. Laffy Kat Jun 2014 #7

No need to apologize... redqueen Jun 2014 #8

It is a learning process. That was one of the simplest, humblest apologies I have seen on DU Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #9

i thought so also, when i read the post hours ago. nt seabeyond Jun 2014 #10

yes and for some odd reason apologies has been on my mind today - evidently Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #11

You mean for this? RiffRandell Jun 2014 #26

Are you seriously still wearing that raggedy old dress? Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #27

This message was self-deleted by its author RiffRandell Jun 2014 #28

Lol Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author RiffRandell Jun 2014 #30

You mad? Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #31

Post removed Post removed Jun 2014 #32

You sound unhinged. Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #34

Rather than flipping out because of what you think BainsBane Jun 2014 #38

You know how many times I've forgiven people and they've never offered and apology. boston bean Jun 2014 #39

Some people live for conflict BainsBane Jun 2014 #41

I was willing to move on, but it keeps being brought up. RiffRandell Jun 2014 #42

Just move on, is my advice. boston bean Jun 2014 #44

Whereas I was told off BainsBane Jun 2014 #46

An apology is always nice. It's up to the wronged person to accept it or not or boston bean Jun 2014 #47

It was clear that in my case BainsBane Jun 2014 #48

I agree. I find it to be very distasteful to try and force someone into boston bean Jun 2014 #49

Are you saying I'm not welcome here? RiffRandell Jun 2014 #40

Perhaps if you once tried to participate in a discussion without attacking posters here BainsBane Jun 2014 #43

"It's sad that you and others are bringing this group down." JTFrog Jun 2014 #57

Knock this shit off in this group. boston bean Jun 2014 #33

Done. RiffRandell Jun 2014 #35

No reason for it, it was personal bullshit way below the belt. boston bean Jun 2014 #36

You are very welcome. nt RiffRandell Jun 2014 #37

What you call a lie BainsBane Jun 2014 #45

She apologized twice in this thread BainsBane Jun 2014 #50

and i just thought that one poster did a good job of accepting another perspective. that was all. nt seabeyond Jun 2014 #52

ya. i saw that somewhere. cant remember where. i did however have a terrific seabeyond Jun 2014 #53

What the hell is going on in this thread? ismnotwasm Jun 2014 #56

It is my fault. I apologize for anything I ever said to RiffRandell. I hope this apology is accepted Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #59

It's kinda routine at this point. nt redqueen Jun 2014 #62

Maybe this can be a turning point, redqueen. I just received a PM from Riff and she accepted my Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #71

Well, this thread sure sparked a lot of hair-splitting and redirection. MadrasT Jun 2014 #67

Someone is 'laying down the law' in differentiating sex from rape? redqueen Jun 2014 #70

LOL Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #73

yes, Please see my post #71 in this thread. Let us all quit deflecting and move forward. There are Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #72

Basically how I feel about it. ismnotwasm Jun 2014 #77