Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: Ocasio-Cortez DESTROYS Meghan McCain live on air, gets huge ovation [View all]Celerity
(44,226 posts)He rants about how none of Bernie's ideas and philosophies are socialism and that to call Bernie a socialist is a RW SMEAR, when Bernie himself calls himself a democratic SOCIALIST.
No, he cannot have it both ways. Democratic socialism is a real thing. One of its main core tenants is the expropriation of the means of production by the state or by socialised forces. MANY of Bernie's supporters and aiding elements at top level, especially the intellectual driving forces behind him like the DSA (which actually goes beyond mere socialism and has REAL Trotskyist communist elements inside it) and then mags like Jacobin (which is a REAL socialist magazine, and does NOT support social democratic forms of government, like we have here in Sweden, etc., as the end game) DO ADVOCATE for the expropriation of the means of production. Those groups I just listed are also profoundly anti-Democratic Party at their taproots.
It is all a giant gaslighting mechanism. Words, underpinning political philosophies, labels, and definitions matter, especially when large chunks of Bernie's supporting apparatus completely advocate exactly what people like Brian Tyler Cohen are trying to flim-flam their way out of through dishonest denialism.
Even worse, is that Sanders (if we take Cohen at face value) is completely and politically suicidally, in reactionary America, falsely adopting (again if we are to believe the spinmeisters from his campaign) the democratic SOCIALIST label for himself, which is going to be hung around every single one of our federal office level (and state level) candidates' necks, and cost us the House as well.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden